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Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts) Tue Apr 27, 2021, 08:55 PM Apr 2021

Illinois judge rules FOID card 'unconstitutional' [View all]

https://khqa.com/newsletter-daily/illinois-judge-rules-foid-card-unconstitutional

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (WICS/WRSP) — An Illinois judge has ruled that Illinois' Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) card law is unconstitutional.

The 2017 case, The People of Illinois vs. Vivian Claudine Brown, comes after Vivian Brown was accused of possessing a firearm without a FOID card.

Brown argued that she "was a law-abiding person charged with possessing an otherwise lawful firearm without a FOID card solely within the confines of her home and that requiring her to go through the FOID card process unconstitutionally infringed upon her fundamental right of self-defense in this 'most private of areas.'"

White County Judge T. Scott Webb agreed.

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Illinois judge rules FOID card 'unconstitutional' [View all] Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 OP

How did she get the gun? Frasier Balzov Apr 2021 #1

She might not have bought it in Illinois. Angleae Apr 2021 #6

Or she may have bought it in Illinois before FOID requirements. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2021 #9

"In my opinion, FOID is not a strong enough deterrent to possession." friendly_iconoclast Apr 2021 #8

May I please see your -BOID-? RotorHead May 2021 #54

False equivalency. Frasier Balzov May 2021 #58

Well, SON... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2021 #59

I think of those kids at Sandy Hook and Marjorie Stoneman Frasier Balzov May 2021 #61

"Think of the children" is a longtime tactic of crooks, demagogues, and moral panic-mongers friendly_iconoclast May 2021 #62

Since there is no Right to murder people... RotorHead May 2021 #64

re "...wonder what rights you could possibly be claiming..." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2021 #66

BTW... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2021 #60

Thank you. RotorHead May 2021 #63

:) discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2021 #67

How so? RotorHead May 2021 #65

The Illitucky circuit, one of 2 dozen IL circuits, and he's one of a dozen judges in it. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2021 #2

As I understand it, it's for this case only. yagotme Apr 2021 #24

Interesting case. James48 Apr 2021 #3

"Good"? Did you mean "Good God!" Or should we just remove ALL common sense statutes that Atticus Apr 2021 #4

"Infringes..." yagotme Apr 2021 #11

I'm sure that, like everything else, responses to FOID apps are slower due to Atticus Apr 2021 #12

Call a poll tax a "fee" to defray costs of the election... yagotme Apr 2021 #13

I don"t think anything I could say could be more revealing of how extreme your views are than Atticus Apr 2021 #14

Extreme views? yagotme Apr 2021 #22

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #23

Correct, thank you Hawker123 Apr 2021 #25

Obviously, there is little to be gained by further back-and-forth with you and your choir but, Atticus Apr 2021 #28

Such declaratory. Many emphatic. And not only wrong, but wrong-headed friendly_iconoclast Apr 2021 #29

I'm sure you think that post makes sense, don't you? Atticus Apr 2021 #30

I'm sure you think that post was an effective rebuttal, don't you? Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #31

So very true Hawker123 May 2021 #40

Made perfect sense to me, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #32

Peeved because your self-righteous sermonizing didn't get a receptive audience? friendly_iconoclast Apr 2021 #35

Unlike castle bansalot Hawker123 May 2021 #41

All I can say has been better said before. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2021 #52

Unlike castle bansalot Hawker123 May 2021 #42

What is Castle Bansalot? Irish_Dem May 2021 #45

Have a link: discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2021 #46

Thank you for the info. Irish_Dem May 2021 #47

For reference... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2021 #48

I had no idea these groups existed on DU. Irish_Dem May 2021 #49

You're welcome discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2021 #50

Yes that is one I am interested in as well. Irish_Dem May 2021 #51

Surely you can explain where s/he was incorrect, yes? RotorHead May 2021 #56

Let's look at some of these... yagotme Apr 2021 #33

And yet ... Straw Man May 2021 #39

Sounds to me *very* much to me like the RW attempts to gut Roe v Wade, Obergfell v Hughes, etc friendly_iconoclast May 2021 #43

I would hardly call making someone watih months to exercise a constitutional "common sense". Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #15

Yeah, let's just sell AR-15s out of vending machines. Anyone with the cash can buy one NOW! nt Atticus Apr 2021 #16

That's essentially the way it has *always* been when it comes to private sales between individuals. Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #17

And, you think that's OK? nt Atticus Apr 2021 #18

Yes I do. nt Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #19

Case closed. There is no more doubt about your agenda. nt Atticus Apr 2021 #20

My agenda is simply supporting present federal gun laws, with one exception. Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #21

Definitely agree with suppressors Hawker123 Apr 2021 #26

In some European countries, they're essentially sold over the counter. Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #27

Some countries, (Finland is one, IIRC), yagotme Apr 2021 #34

France is another. oneshooter Apr 2021 #36

Please explain this "agenda" you see? RotorHead May 2021 #57

"(diminuative of 'James') (species of corvid)" laws were *also* held to be "common sense"... friendly_iconoclast May 2021 #44

Hopefully The Mouth Apr 2021 #37

Extraordinaily unlikely. More plausibly, they may mandate that every state be at least Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #38

Me too. I'd be happy with that The Mouth May 2021 #53

How is the FOID 'common sense"? RotorHead May 2021 #55

Lol, ok! Nt USALiberal Apr 2021 #5

I am on the fence regarding the Illinois FOID system... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2021 #7

Friends in IL that have gotten FOID cards report the system as fair, albeit... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2021 #10