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In reply to the discussion: "Senate Dems introduce 'assault weapons' ban bill on 205 gun models" [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)18. "No more compromise" I was waiting for the "no loaf is better than half a loaf" crowd to show up
I'll repeat this, for yours and others' benefit:
Democrats do not have the votes to pass this all on our own, and the last time something like it
*was* passed, we promptly lost the next Congress to the Republicans
Thank you for demonstrating yet again that gun control advocacy (like all puritanical movements)
is a hotbed of both false consensus effect and fascistic tendencies:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/126213599#post4
...I'm beginning to swing to the only way to prevent 40-50 deaths a year is to just say 'fuck it, take 'em all and round up the people that don't comply'.
That's what happens when one side refuses to compromise on legal, constitutional changes to the law. The push the other side to equally outrageous solutions...
That's what happens when one side refuses to compromise on legal, constitutional changes to the law. The push the other side to equally outrageous solutions...
"Darn those pesky gun owners for making us act out a brownshirts' wet dream!"
And then there's this, from one of hosts of the other group:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/126212396
Expanded background checks to include local police departments needs to be implemented in order to identify social misfits even though they have no criminal record.
Also:
How did
...(D)ecades of discussion with those who have in depth knowledge about firearms...
lead you to post clangers like:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/126211810
These guys were making suppressors (aka silencers which really don't silence and only serve the purpose of making your gun longer...
and
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=146846
Actually that statement is correct. While there many regulations effecting guns,
they are exempt from product safety regulations. Gun makers cannot be sued for producing a defective, unsafe product. Examples would be the Remington 700 safety that caused the gun to fire when the "safety" was disengaged
they are exempt from product safety regulations. Gun makers cannot be sued for producing a defective, unsafe product. Examples would be the Remington 700 safety that caused the gun to fire when the "safety" was disengaged
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=146863
Not true- Remington has been sued many times over defective rifles
http://www.cnbc.com/id/39554936
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/idaho-lawsuit-is-latest-claim-against-remington/
http://helenair.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/class-action-lawsuit-filed-in-montana-against-remington-arms/article_6211a22e-ce36-11e2-b81b-0019bb2963f4.html
Class-action lawsuit filed in Montana against Remington Arms
You do your cause no favors by spreading untruths...
http://www.cnbc.com/id/39554936
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/idaho-lawsuit-is-latest-claim-against-remington/
http://helenair.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/class-action-lawsuit-filed-in-montana-against-remington-arms/article_6211a22e-ce36-11e2-b81b-0019bb2963f4.html
Class-action lawsuit filed in Montana against Remington Arms
June 06, 2013 12:00 am By EVE BYRON Independent Record
A class-action lawsuit was filed Tuesday in federal court in Montana against gun manufacturer Remington Arms Company, claiming that it knew since the 1940s that its Model 700 rifle had a faulty mechanism that allowed the gun to discharge without a trigger pull, but failed to notify the public of the defect.
This lawsuit, filed by Richard Ramler on behalf of Eric Huleatt and Allen Bowker, is different than previous lawsuits filed in the state because its not focusing on allegations that the plaintiffs were seriously injured or killed by their guns misfiring.
Instead, Ramler writes that Remington knew the Model 700 rifles were defective, yet the company failed to warn people who purchased the weapon, failed to remedy the situation and required gun owners to pay a fee for both shipping and a replacement trigger once they notified Remington of the defect...
You do your cause no favors by spreading untruths...
?
Ignorance really *is* strength with you lot..
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"Senate Dems introduce 'assault weapons' ban bill on 205 gun models" [View all]
krispos42
Mar 2021
OP
Yeah, "they" are a real pain in the ass for you gun enthusiasts, aren't "they"? (nt)
Paladin
Mar 2021
#6
I'm not a gun enthusiast, but banning weapons based on appearances doesn't accomplish anything.
MichMan
Mar 2021
#7
Not true: it makes the self-righteous feel better, and gives the GOP a handy wedge issue
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2021
#11
These are neo-Puritans fighting what they regard as evil. Actual crime stats are almost irrelevant
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2021
#13
Gun controllers are every bit as puritanical as some of the various subgroups in the GOP
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2021
#19
"No more compromise" I was waiting for the "no loaf is better than half a loaf" crowd to show up
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2021
#18
So rather than have the government confiscate all handguns, you would have them confiscate "only"
Dial H For Hero
Mar 2021
#23
You're advocating that the government consficate about 200 million firearms from private hands.
Dial H For Hero
Mar 2021
#29
I would estimate that roughly 75% of privately owned handguns are semiautomatics, and of those
Dial H For Hero
Mar 2021
#31
"Take part or sit back and let people like me do it for you." Forced teaming? Really?
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2021
#33
"Take part or sit back and let people like me do it for you." There is a third alternative.
Dial H For Hero
Mar 2021
#34
People have been arguing that massive gun control is just around the corner for *decades*.
Dial H For Hero
Mar 2021
#39
"Talking points": The gun-control version of "Widespread voting fraud"
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2021
#40
Yup. Because, you see there's this funny thing where the party in power gets to do shit
krispos42
Mar 2021
#52
You've declared "No more compromise" and "take 'em all, and round up the people that don't comply"..
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2021
#24