Gun Control & RKBA

benEzra

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20. They're not the "most lethal semiautomatic weapons", they're the least lethal.

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 05:04 PM

Dec 2016

Both in Europe and here.

Rifle Homicides in the United States, 2005-2015

2005: 442
2006: 436
2007: 450
2008: 375
2009: 348
2010: 358
2011: 323
2012: 302
2013: 285
2014: 248
2015: 252

(Source: FBI Uniform Crime Reports 2005-2015, Table 20, Collated)

Also, the reporter is confused. This proposal isn't talking about banning M16's or military AK-47's; it's talking about banning civilian non-automatics (aka semiautomatics) like AR-15's, as are common in Finland, Scandinavia, Switzerland, the Czech Republic, Germany, France, New Zealand, Canada, and most of the United States.

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EU talks on banning deadliest semi-automatic weapons hit deadlock [View all] Eugene Dec 2016 OP

Remember, no one wants to take away our guns. TupperHappy Dec 2016 #1

Here's the problem with trying to regulate by minutia; make a definition and the seller will flamin lib Dec 2016 #2

You are just full of good ideas... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #3

Perhaps that is the point... sarisataka Dec 2016 #4

Some in DU have openly speculated on how to ban me for a lot less. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #9

Exactly what do we do with all the existing semiautomatic weapons with ... spin Dec 2016 #5

You likely won't get an answer to that. TupperHappy Dec 2016 #19

Hmm. One of the first after-market banana mags was fitted to a Rem Model 8, whose Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #8

re: "gun lobby" is in Europe discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #10

I much prefer an honest gun banner TupperHappy Dec 2016 #11

According to Heller the 2nd doesn't cover carrying any gun for any reason anywhere. flamin lib Dec 2016 #13

Are you suggesting that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #15

If you set the speed limit on the Interstates nationwide to 35 mph, benEzra Dec 2016 #21

Yeah, and if Pepe had wings he wouldn't bump his ass every time he jumped. flamin lib Dec 2016 #23

Advocating bans on 75% of civilian guns...bans that Canada and most of Europe have rejected... benEzra Dec 2016 #25

To misquote Neil A... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #26

I said GUNS, not rifles. nt flamin lib Dec 2016 #30

Yes, I realize that. That's why I said "75% of civilian guns" above, which would encompass benEzra Dec 2016 #43

No one that I know of is arguing that. TupperHappy Dec 2016 #24

A really great post discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #27

There are only two features that matter. flamin lib Dec 2016 #29

Let's say you achieve your goal sarisataka Dec 2016 #31

Ok, then, answer me this. TupperHappy Dec 2016 #32

time. flamin lib Dec 2016 #33

So, the deaths don't matter after all. SQUEE Dec 2016 #35

That is the most stupid reply I've read in a long time. Not saying you are stupid, just your reply. flamin lib Dec 2016 #36

So, nailed it I see. SQUEE Dec 2016 #37

That may be what you are willing to accept, but i guarantee... TupperHappy Dec 2016 #38

That is provably wrong. flamin lib Dec 2016 #39

Yes, I know you said GUNS TupperHappy Dec 2016 #40

This is becoming tiresome. flamin lib Dec 2016 #41

We'll also retain the right to own detachable-magazine semiautos, like Canadians and Europeans. n/t benEzra Dec 2016 #45

"I give up." I rather doubt that- those that seek to punish 'sinful' behavior for 'the greater good' friendly_iconoclast Dec 2016 #46

You realize even the *UK* has rejected that level of ban, yes? benEzra Dec 2016 #44

That means I do not have an inherent right to carry an AK in a candy store filled with hyper kids derby378 Dec 2016 #49

Pretty soon we will have a favorable SCOTUS ruling in Kolbe. Kang Colby Dec 2016 #17

Funny how much Europe, sarisataka Dec 2016 #6

No, AR-15's and such are common across most of Europe. benEzra Dec 2016 #22

Heh. "Legal definitions." Well, what do you know. They're catching up -- overseas. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #7

Murder. yagotme Dec 2016 #12

Well, it's clearly unenforceable so let's repeal laws against murder. flamin lib Dec 2016 #14

My point, yagotme Dec 2016 #18

Heh. If laws only existed because of ther deterrent effect, we wouldn't have ANY laws... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #34

Oh really? Straw Man Dec 2016 #42

One of the points I often make is that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #48

I personally think murder should be double secret illegal! discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #16

They're not the "most lethal semiautomatic weapons", they're the least lethal. benEzra Dec 2016 #20

Another confused reporter...no surprise there. ... spin Dec 2016 #28

No more confused or factually incorrect than certain self-proclaimed "experts" on this thread... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2016 #47