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In reply to the discussion: Yup, it's officially a moral panic: [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)64. "30,000 dead" in this case is a 'thought-terminating cliche':
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clich%C3%A9#Thought-terminating_clich.C3.A9
Thought-terminating cliché
In his 1961 book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A Study of "Brainwashing" in China psychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton introduced the term "thought-terminating cliché".This refers to a cliché that is a commonly used phrase, or folk wisdom, sometimes used to quell cognitive dissonance. Though the clichéd phrase in and of itself may be valid in certain contexts, its application as a means of dismissing dissent or justifying fallacious logic is what makes it thought-terminating.
Lifton wrote:
"The language of the totalist environment is characterized by the thought-terminating cliché. The most far-reaching and complex of human problems are compressed into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed. These become the start and finish of any ideological analysis."
In George Orwell's 1949 novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, the fictional constructed language Newspeak is designed to eliminate the ability to express unorthodox thoughts. Aldous Huxleys Brave New World society uses thought-terminating clichés in a more conventional manner, most notably in regard to the drug soma as well as modified versions of real-life platitudes, such as "A doctor a day keeps the jim-jams away".
In her 1963 book Eichmann in Jerusalem, Hannah Arendt described Adolf Eichmann as an intelligent man who used clichés and platitudes to justify his actions and the role he played in the Jewish genocide of World War II. For her, these phrases are symptomatic of an absence of thought. Arendt wrote, "When confronted with situations for which such routine procedures did not exist, he [Eichmann] was helpless, and his cliché-ridden language produced on the stand, as it had evidently done in his official life, a kind of macabre comedy. Clichés, stock phrases, adherence to conventional, standardized codes of expression and conduct have the socially recognized function of protecting us against reality, that is, against the claim on our thinking attention that all events and facts make by virtue of their existence."
In his 1961 book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A Study of "Brainwashing" in China psychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton introduced the term "thought-terminating cliché".This refers to a cliché that is a commonly used phrase, or folk wisdom, sometimes used to quell cognitive dissonance. Though the clichéd phrase in and of itself may be valid in certain contexts, its application as a means of dismissing dissent or justifying fallacious logic is what makes it thought-terminating.
Lifton wrote:
"The language of the totalist environment is characterized by the thought-terminating cliché. The most far-reaching and complex of human problems are compressed into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed. These become the start and finish of any ideological analysis."
In George Orwell's 1949 novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, the fictional constructed language Newspeak is designed to eliminate the ability to express unorthodox thoughts. Aldous Huxleys Brave New World society uses thought-terminating clichés in a more conventional manner, most notably in regard to the drug soma as well as modified versions of real-life platitudes, such as "A doctor a day keeps the jim-jams away".
In her 1963 book Eichmann in Jerusalem, Hannah Arendt described Adolf Eichmann as an intelligent man who used clichés and platitudes to justify his actions and the role he played in the Jewish genocide of World War II. For her, these phrases are symptomatic of an absence of thought. Arendt wrote, "When confronted with situations for which such routine procedures did not exist, he [Eichmann] was helpless, and his cliché-ridden language produced on the stand, as it had evidently done in his official life, a kind of macabre comedy. Clichés, stock phrases, adherence to conventional, standardized codes of expression and conduct have the socially recognized function of protecting us against reality, that is, against the claim on our thinking attention that all events and facts make by virtue of their existence."
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"I bet the percentage is actually quite miniscule." It is - see post #5
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#6
And no good is done by attemting to discuss murder in context of small sub-groups
guillaumeb
Aug 2016
#19
This context-free burbling re. '30,000 dead' is a good example of why you're failing.
pablo_marmol
Aug 2016
#48
We should catalog Thought-terminating cliches. One of the ones I notice most in GD is
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#68
But they *do* kill on occasion. Are those killed by cars and drugs less dead than shooting victims?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#25
You're evading. What if I was the target? Would using deadly force to stop that person be bad?
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#52
Fine words, indeed- but they do not answer the question asked. Here it is again:
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#62
The claim that Zimmerman exercised a right has no bearing to anyone outside of the case.
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#76
Is this the official NRA fairy story version of the murder of Trayvon Martin?
guillaumeb
Aug 2016
#80
The character of persons in particular cases have no bearing on rights in other cases
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2016
#87
Wow! That's a pretty "creative" interpretation of the actual evidence and testimony
DonP
Sep 2016
#89
If I'm attacked without provocation and fear grave bodily injury do I have a right to
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#114
For the sake of argument, let us concede that your estimate of him is correct.
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2016
#91
If someone, without provocation, threatened me with grave injury or death would I
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#97
I wish my other interlocutor would answer the question. He's made a point to answer so many other
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#100
You are denying difference in circumstances, which prevents effective action to prevent those deaths
krispos42
Sep 2016
#129
Your collective guilt-tripping and appeals to emotion seem not to be gaining traction
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#13
I agree - at least 2/3 are in that example...suicide and all. Guess most are in fact, as others
jmg257
Aug 2016
#41
Remarkable few of which were caused by by the group under discussion
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#15
A thoughtful reply to a question not asked- and I should have said CNG vehicles, not electric ones
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#29
While around 1200 criminals are responsible for over 400 deaths in Chicago alone every year.
jmg257
Aug 2016
#67
And they see no_hypocrisy in arguing from a position of ignorance........
pablo_marmol
Sep 2016
#108