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In reply to the discussion: George Zimmerman is a good example of bad problem [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)50. not exactly.
Also, as I said, there were other incidents of domestic violence with different women. Zimmerman shoved a cop in 2005 and also had his 2005 girlfriend (not his wife) accuse him of domestic violence... as well as incidents in 2013 with different women. Both asked the charges to dropped, but that is extremely common in domestic violence cases.
In the 2013 case was dropped because the cops threatened to charge her for filing a false report after reviewing Daddy's security tapes that showed her lying. The "shoving a cop" was a natural reaction to a friend sitting next to him being grabbed by an ABC officer who was not in uniform and did not identify himself. He just saw some guy grabbing his friend. Context is everything.
Yes, in practice, they do. Not according to the letter of the law, but according to how the law is applied... yes... if I'm involved in an incident and claim that I was justified in self defense and I kill someone with a single punch or stab... and go before 100 juries I will be convicted more often than if the facts are exactly the same but I shot my assailant once.
not if the evidence show that it is self defense.
So a suspicious creeper (Trayvon obviously interpreted Zimmerman as that way) is free to follow you and you're not allowed to double back and ask them why the F they're following you?
Trayvon ran when he saw Zimmerman still sitting in the car, talking on the phone.
And yes I don't think the prosecution had enough evidence to convict. But it takes takes beyond a reasonable doubt, not preponderance of evidence to convict.
There wasn't enough evidence for a trial. All of the evidence showed that it was self defense. There was ZERO evidence of anything other than self defense.
So a suspicious creeper (Trayvon obviously interpreted Zimmerman as that way) is free to follow you and you're not allowed to double back and ask them why the F they're following you?
I think Trayvon knew. The one definition of "creepy assed cracker" I have seen was for any gay person. Trayvon might have been as homophobic as he was violent. Yes he was free to double back to ask why are you following me. He didn't do that. Edit history
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OK, as a touchstone, let's replace activities about guns with voting, or using free speech.
Big_Mike
May 2016
#38
I don't think Zimmerman should have as much as the right to freedom of movement.
Giggity
May 2016
#3
I have a right to go where I want without the threat of being jumped, raped or robbed.
Boudica the Lyoness
May 2016
#33
A wife beating man who seems to get into various other conflicts including being
MillennialDem
May 2016
#42
Ok, so 4 separate women (1 in 2005 and 3 in 2013-2014) all accuse Zimmerman of domestic
MillennialDem
May 2016
#53
And recantations during domestic violence are not uncommon either - I know, my mother was a
MillennialDem
May 2016
#56
His ex in 2005 alleged domestic violence. Poor poor Georgie, he must date some really
MillennialDem
May 2016
#58
Yet, you still defend his as a great fella, because he's on team gun (note I'm not talking about
MillennialDem
May 2016
#61
So if I'm in a fist fight, if I scream for help I'm no longer a threat? Pretty hard to not be a
MillennialDem
May 2016
#65
Pretty much if you shove someone, and they hit you, then you blast them into oblivion, you're
MillennialDem
May 2016
#46