Gun Control & RKBA

jmg257

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6. Hold it, hold it...

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:59 AM

Apr 2016

"The study analyzes data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program’s Supplementary Homicide Report (SHR) and cites survey data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS).

For violent crime, the NCVS estimates that there were 18,328,600 victims of attempted or completed violent crime. During this same three-year period, only 163,600 of the self-protective behaviors involved a firearm — or 0.9 percent.

For property crime, the NCVS estimates that there were 51,685,500 victims of attempted or completed property crime. During this same three-year period, only 99,900 of the self-protective behaviors involved a firearm — or 0.2 percent.

So let's see - 3 years = 263,500 defensive gun uses, and only roughly 600 justified fatalities?
But there were over 700 MILLION victims of violent and property crimes?!?

700 MILLION victims???

Sure sounds like they are actually justifying victims arm themselves more often.

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Guns Are Rarely Used in Self-Defense [View all] SecularMotion Apr 2016 OP

How come gun control advocates only count homicides as justifiable? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #1

Because there are so few of them discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #40

Some pretty serious desperation is showing lately... theatre goon Apr 2016 #2

Hey Goon, which theatre is yours, the one in Colorado or the one in Louisiana? nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #10

You're stooping ... Straw Man Apr 2016 #11

I asked Goon, how 'bout you let him respond? nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #13

Oh, you mean it wasn't rhetorical? Straw Man Apr 2016 #15

Oh, I think Straw Man handled it quite well. theatre goon Apr 2016 #25

Yes, another rhetorical pumble that controllers use. All the time. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #22

So self-defense doesn't "count" if the attacker doesn't die. benEzra Apr 2016 #3

Yes, some of these cats are a bloody lot, I must say. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #26

Well... beevul Apr 2016 #33

The statistic is bogus. Jerry442 Apr 2016 #4

You mean, hearing the sound of a hammer cocking or a slide being racked? krispos42 Apr 2016 #14

Magic. Straw Man Apr 2016 #16

You have got to keep up the myth of guns for self defense because fasttense Apr 2016 #5

Do you have a linkable source for this? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #8

Actually, I think multiple purchases by a gun-owner may be explained more prosaically... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #28

Hold it, hold it... jmg257 Apr 2016 #6

Those people were murdered in their sleep. Nitram Apr 2016 #7

Could you expound on your comments? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #9

People shot to death in their beds. Nitram Apr 2016 #24

The OP refers to 2 distinct groups: Those unlawfully murdered and those who Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #32

I'm refering to the introduction to the OP where the sheriff implied if the people murdered Nitram Apr 2016 #34

Thank-you for taking the time to answer my questions. Sorry if I was a pest. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #39

Or better yet ... Straw Man Apr 2016 #17

I'm not in favor of capital punishment for growing pot.- Nitram Apr 2016 #23

Me neither... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #29

In rural areas? Really? Nitram Apr 2016 #30

Why, yes, many smoke doobies in rural areas. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #35

Eleanor, we're talking about dog ownership, not doobies. Nitram Apr 2016 #36

It doesn't mutt-er to me! Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #37

Nor am I. Straw Man Apr 2016 #31

Then criminal gun use is rare, too. krispos42 Apr 2016 #12

illegitimate DGUs, legitimatized jimmy the one Apr 2016 #18

Does the shooting of Mr. Smith invalidate all DGUs? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #19

You were supposed to be dazzled by sheer weight of verbiage, not ask inconvenient questions friendly_iconoclast Apr 2016 #38

or maybe they are sarisataka Apr 2016 #20

It only takes once... ileus Apr 2016 #27