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Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
11. False (and borderline slanderous).
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:56 AM
Oct 2015
All gun owners at least on this board are interested in is guns, gun rights and obfuscation.


Bullshit. Lots of gun owners on this board have expressed advocacy of numerous reasonable gun control measures. I've actually worked to pass a new gun control measure here in Oregon (universal background checks). Your assertion is transparently false.

Moreover, basing future gun control policies on mass shootings is ridiculous. These shootings are hugely mediagenic...but represent a small fraction of gun-related homicide. Given that the factors behind these different categories of shootings are very, very different, the best ways to prevent them will (obviously) differ. Even calls for banning "assault weapons" would be largely useless in preventing shootings (just like it was with the original AWB) because these weapons are used in a few hundred homicides per year (as opposed to about 11,000 for common handguns in non-mass-shootings).

I also suggest you don't place too much reliance on the "there are fewer gun owners" meme. There are almost certainly fewer...but by nowhere near the amount a couple methodologically-dubious studies might have you believe. In today's political climate, gun owners lie to researchers...trust me on that one.

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at least the alleged shamers are not piling up corpses by the tens of thousands nt msongs Oct 2015 #1
I think you've set the record pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #2
Now this is a new one! ROFLMAO.. virginia mountainman Oct 2015 #3
Well, people are killed, but we get to hear talk about Penis... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #10
Your post really shows the big picture. beevul Oct 2015 #13
How many gun owners have *you* gotten to "see the light" with that approach? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #17
Yup.......you've hit the nail on the head. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #4
It is going to go beyond talking to gun owners. All gun owners at least on this board are interested upaloopa Oct 2015 #5
What I'm hearing is -- Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #7
I don't care if you talk to us people. It has gone beyond talking as I have said. upaloopa Oct 2015 #19
You really believe you can get something done without the input/help of firearms owners? GGJohn Oct 2015 #20
Meh? They are locked into a state of "faith" and denial now DonP Oct 2015 #22
Your reply would have been a lot shorter if you had just said, "You're right." Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #21
Lol Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #8
This is satire, right? GGJohn Oct 2015 #9
False (and borderline slanderous). Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #11
They usually have bupkis to say about the majority of firearm homicides... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #15
It's a curious blind spot, isn't it? (nm) Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #16
Bluster and bravado. You lot are demonstrably prone to false consensus effect friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #14
Funny, as in strange sarisataka Oct 2015 #18
gun owners see through their "we only want" lies. ileus Oct 2015 #6
"...somewhere between used car dealers and the more mendacious sorts of TV preachers." beevul Oct 2015 #12
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