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Gun Control & RKBA

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gejohnston

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Sun Oct 18, 2015, 03:05 PM Oct 2015

can anyone verify this? [View all]

A friend of mine sent me this link. Since I don't have any contacts in the British government, nor am I an expert on their crime reporting statistics. In fact, I'm not even an Anglophile beyond enjoying working with the RAF a few times.

If this is true, think of the ramifications for discussing gun control in general. How are each country reporting their murder rates and are they comparable to how the US does it?
Take for example, this tidbit.

Since 1967, homicide figures for England and Wales have been adjusted to exclude any cases which do not result in conviction.
and cites a paper written by former Met PD official Colon Greenwood on Parliament's website. It not only says that Jack the Ripper's crimes would not be included by the Home Office statistics. It also begs the question, does the increase in this chart mean "more murder" or "better police work and forensics resulting in more convictions"?



Here is the point he is making
The murder rate in the UK according to US standards is double or higher than their reported rate. It may be impossible to produce an actual apples to apples comparison number from official sources. It is not 15% of the US rate.

My question is, when we make these international comparisons with numbers from Wikipedia, is either side making "apples and apples" comparisons?
the link
http://rboatright.blogspot.com/2013/03/comparing-england-or-uk-murder-rates.html
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can anyone verify this? [View all] gejohnston Oct 2015 OP
How do they count murders with no suspect? krispos42 Oct 2015 #1
apparently, the Home Office doesn't gejohnston Oct 2015 #2
That subject has long been verified. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #3
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