Spirituality vs the "God" idea.

[Old Codger]

20. My own opinion

And only my opinion. Most if not all of us went to any lengths to maintain our habits whether it was drugs or alcohol, we spent a lot of effort in finding ways to indulge ourselves, we lied we cheated some stole things, money or other items of value. BUT anyone who truly wants sobriety will go to at least the same effort to get and remain sober/clean regardless what it takes..

Personally I feel anyone who nit-picks the system is looking for an excuse to continue on their path of destruction... I spent a lot of time at meetings both attending and chairing them and I have seen as have many other who have been around for a while many many come and go, I have seen miracles happen, people who have truly hit bottom and below come in and stay and get clean/sober none of them managed on their own and the ones that made it did whatever it took no matter what to do so, if than means faking it somehow or maybe bending your beliefs somewhat then do it. you allowed alcohol/drugs to be a higher power so why not something else... forget the bible and religion, I am an avowed atheist but found a way to make it work, if I can anyone can.