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In reply to the discussion: Does this group have a host? [View all]
 

iverglas

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37. there seems to be interest
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:22 PM
Jan 2012

On the part of what one might call "regular" members of this group - certainly.

But there is a considerable volume of posts in that thread that express views quite contrary to the SoP adopted for the original group. Discussion of the alleged waves of feminism is one thing; posts from people claiming to be "third-wave feminists" but plainly not sharing any of the analysis that this group was founded on, and confronting long-standing members on what had been understood to be the common analyses of the group, are another.

In the past, the Women's Rights forum was available for discussions of that nature. It still is.

Put simply, I'm not interested in this group at all, if I am to be faced with this kind of confrontation. If I want that, and I seldom do, I can go to GD. Or go find somebody to argue with in real life. I stopped doing that a long time ago, too.

Let's remember this has always been a protected group -- just like other groups on DU. People who don't like that can go somewhere else, and are welcome to invite members of this group to engage them there. Or not, if that is their choice. We have that choice too: not to be engaged by DU members who seek confrontation over what we regard as fundamental issues and analyses. And most especially not to be told to move to the back of the bus. That is what the part of the SoP referred to says:

"This is not a group to discuss gender, class or sexual orientation rights and issues. It is specifically to discuss women's rights and issues as they affect women from a woman's perspective and experience."

Without some common ground -- and yes, some exclusions -- this is just GD writ small.

It is for the group to decide what is fundamental, not for anyone who might want to post here, for whatever reason. And it was decided originally that simply cloaking one's self in the label "feminist", of whatever wave, was not adequate for that purpose.

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Does this group have a host? [View all] La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 OP
it doesn't, yet: Click on the 'About This Group' button muriel_volestrangler Dec 2011 #1
maybe a host should be appointed. we are in the process of doing that in the lgbt forum and its La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #2
Maybe we should start a volunteering thread and see who wants the job. Gormy Cuss Dec 2011 #8
agreed. i def think we should wait a week. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #9
I agree that this group, as a safe haven, needs hosting. Gormy Cuss Dec 2011 #3
we have to find a main host and vote on it. then find some other people willing to host and vote La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #4
I nominate you, Pri!! PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #5
i second it. nt seabeyond Dec 2011 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #7
This thread sunk without any resolution, so here's what I think... Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #10
oh gosh no, not me. thank you. seabeyond Jan 2012 #11
No, you don't! Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #26
oops! iverglas Jan 2012 #12
actually iverglas Jan 2012 #13
A host could pin that to the top of the group. laconicsax Jan 2012 #14
ah, I get it iverglas Jan 2012 #15
I'll second your nomination. redqueen Jan 2012 #16
third.... lol seabeyond Jan 2012 #17
I think yr addition covers the bit I was thinking of... Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #27
I think that's covered reasonably well iverglas Jan 2012 #30
I would nominate PeaceNikki (she showed interest upthread) or Blue Iris. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #18
both work really well. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #19
I tend not to pay adequate attention to persons iverglas Jan 2012 #20
she would be good, too. lol. see why i can't do it seabeyond Jan 2012 #21
Thank you! redqueen Jan 2012 #22
and now iverglas Jan 2012 #23
what? lol. you just want people to sign the SOP? ok. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #24
I nominate seabeyond, redqueen, and iverglas. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #25
I think I've already nominated the first two, but I'll add redqueen too n/t Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #28
so to sum up ... iverglas Jan 2012 #29
You missed BlueIris Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #31
agreed La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2012 #32
oops! iverglas Jan 2012 #34
honestly i am not sure i am comfortable with signing up to moderate a group La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2012 #33
And that points to another new thread: discussing how we want expand the definition of the SoP Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #35
there seems to be interest iverglas Jan 2012 #37
There's a lot of room for common ground Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #38
my only real hope is also to openingly and honestly be able to express on all manners of things. seabeyond Jan 2012 #39
That's what I'd like to see too. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #41
i think if people have to resort to, you slut, your frigid seabeyond Jan 2012 #42
then you guys should rename this second wave feminist group La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2012 #40
I think we should actually refrain from labelling one another iverglas Jan 2012 #43
let me ask you directly (edited) iverglas Jan 2012 #44
perhaps you would be wise to abstain iverglas Jan 2012 #36
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