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qazplm135

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18. the choice
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 11:30 PM
Apr 2021

allows women to either embrace OR reject that gendered look. It's THEIR choice. Isn't that the whole point? Giving women choices over their appearance? Their bodies? IF they want to embrace traditional genders, what's the problem with that? If they don't, what's the problem with that?

Nothing about that choice affects order, unity or equality. As for "uniformity," there are multiple different types of work uniforms, dress uniforms, even physical fitness uniform options. I spent 22 years in the Army and plenty of times I saw people wearing different uniforms for dress events based on personal preference. I never bought the mess dress even though I was an O5 because I thought it looked like a waiter's uniform. I preferred the Blues. Other field grades liked and wore the mess dress. And back when we still had the green's, you saw up to three different types of uniforms at a formal function. (which is probably the same thing you see now that they have the "pinks and greens."

So, no to "uniformity" as well.

Dress uniforms are the epitome of "style clothing." And even then, the women's uniforms of all types have different styling from the men. Why? Breasts. You can't put pockets on a woman's chest. And you can't have the same cut for women and men for fit purposes. So even when the uniforms are "the same," they ain't the same. Women's bodies are different from men. So this mythical exact sameness you are looking for doesn't exist, and it shouldn't exist. Equal does not equal same.

If this was a situation where women were required to dress one way ("feminine" ) then I'd be the first to say, that's bullshit. But they aren't. They have choices. Sorry but there's zero wrong with that.

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Wish I could rec plus several gazillion! Thie issues that you bring up do not receive anywhere niyad Apr 2021 #1
Photos of military dress of females in the Israeli military would be good to see, too. ancianita Apr 2021 #2
Makes absolutely no sense for anyone to be attired in a dress for the military. LiberalFighter Apr 2021 #3
So the Army gives women the choice qazplm135 Apr 2021 #4
The Air Force does as well DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2021 #5
By all appearances a choice seems fine if men can have the same choice. ancianita Apr 2021 #6
You aren't wearing your dress uniform qazplm135 Apr 2021 #10
I know that. What if a non combat zone is attacked, is the question. ancianita Apr 2021 #11
What if aliens invade?! qazplm135 Apr 2021 #14
Haha okay, fine. On a daily basis I'd call one kind of dress 'one less thing'. ancianita Apr 2021 #15
Do men get to choose a skirt? CrispyQ Apr 2021 #9
Yeezy does -- Givenchy! So does Vin Diesel. ancianita Apr 2021 #12
My USAF sergeant granddaughter wears dress blue pants. quaint Apr 2021 #7
By choice? Or by dress standard for both genders? ancianita Apr 2021 #8
I don't know but plan to find out. quaint Apr 2021 #13
I'm confused as to why qazplm135 Apr 2021 #16
More choice isn't better if the "choice" repeats a gendered civilian look ancianita Apr 2021 #17
the choice qazplm135 Apr 2021 #18
Fine. I accept your arguments and see nothing wrong with the meaning of 'choice' here. ancianita Apr 2021 #19
I'll give you credit qazplm135 Apr 2021 #20
In my case ancianita Apr 2021 #21
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