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Hugh_Lebowski

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13. I don't disagree with too much of what you're saying
Sat Jul 8, 2023, 09:43 PM
Jul 2023

Ana was at least arguably being a snowflake in that initial comment, I mostly agree there. I mean I suppose there's SOME argument to be made that a woman might prefer to be referred to as a woman, as opposed to being defined by her reproductive/baby-making capabilities, but since nobody was actually doing that to her specifically ... it's a bit of an invalid appropriation, and comes off poorly as such.

But at the same time, Cassandra's counter-argument is also VERY easily shown to be a logically fallacious response to that comment

I didn't know about 'the podcast', don't know who Jesse Singal is, nor what s/he said. If Ana 'attacks' puberty blockers, then of course I do not concur in any way.

But I have to circle back round to this point ... "Again as I said before trans-men can be mothers."

Can they, though? Is that what trans-men want to be called, is 'mother'? Because, like it or not, 'mother' implies 'female'. Why is he not a 'father'? Do you not see the dichotomy of this situation?

Do you see at all how convoluted the 'proper' nomenclature becomes, and why people, even liberals like myself who stick up for trans rights at every opportunity ... will begin to ask 'what do you expect from us?'

Mother implies a woman to the VAST majority of humankind. You cannot expect that to change because you assert, for the first time in history, that a man can also be a mother.

So, I just have to ask ... is it really worth it to insist thusly?

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Nothing bothers me more than when people on the left sell us out LostOne4Ever Jul 2023 #1
And it gets worse LostOne4Ever Jul 2023 #2
They're stupid & cruel to do that.. I've Cha Jul 2023 #3
They have been bigots for A LONG time. Behind the Aegis Jul 2023 #4
Sadly lot of my "liberal" FB friends still trust them LostOne4Ever Jul 2023 #5
So I just have to ask ... which is the official, appropriately Political Correct nomenclature? Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #6
Not all mothers are women LostOne4Ever Jul 2023 #7
My phrasing? Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #10
Where in the article does it say anything about "political correctness?" LostOne4Ever Jul 2023 #12
I don't disagree with too much of what you're saying Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #13
If they identify as mothers then that is what they are LostOne4Ever Jul 2023 #14
"Using inclusive language like "those who have given birth" achieves that. Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #16
The majority of Cis Women agree LostOne4Ever Jul 2023 #17
I'm not going to sit and argue endlessly with you ... you're dead set on this gambit Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #18
All of those things came about from activists pushing LostOne4Ever Jul 2023 #19
I'm familiar with the Letter, and I understand the point Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #20
Also trans women can adopt or make babies via sperm vercetti2021 Jul 2023 #8
I understand, and I hope you are someday :) (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #11
I stopped paying attention to the young turks, Cenk and Kasparian a very long time ago LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #9
Here are some good reasons to ignore Cenk and the Young turks LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #15
Thank you for getting this message out. lapucelle Jul 2023 #21
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