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Behind the Aegis

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5. It is irritation due to disrespect, Lebowski.
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 03:52 PM
Aug 2022

I am going to say this again, I thought I was being clear, but perhaps I was too subtle, not a quality often ascribed to me.

THIS IS THE LGBT GROUP!

This means I am telling you, again, to monitor your tone and your remarks. The first post was bad enough, but your follow-up is even more dismissive, disrespectful, and patronizing.

But these girls aren't there to 'turn you straight', they're their because gay guys tend to be polite, sweet, fun to be around, not to mention cute!

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Girls? Really?! Looking past that, I never said or indicated, nor did the article that " (they) there to 'turn you straight'". What you produced is known as a "strawman argument". The next sentence is nothing but a string of stereotypes, even "positive" stereotypes have negative implications.

There is a very good argument to make that they are supporters of your space, not some kind of enemy. For many attendees it's the one and only time they'll be in such a place. Why not adopt a position that we should be inclusive towards people who come to our place in a spirit of good will, because they LIKE us, and are there to spend money and thus support these businesses they we want to be there for us?


This is NO argument. PERIOD! They are there for THEIR enjoyment, not ours! Your question about "adopting a position" of inclusivity is nothing more than HETEROSEXIST twaddle. It is not our responsibility to tend to their needs in our space, and the same is true HERE, in the LGBT GROUP!

Seems to me it's a choice ... act as good-will ambassadors, or reject them and resent them for coming because they're (probably mostly) hetero?


Given all you wrote, I'd have to say this is probably the most ignorant thing you wrote. It is, again, HETEROSEXIST nonsense. While some gay bars and their patrons can welcome their parties and shenanigans, many do not, and for good reason as outlined in the article. They want to be entertained? Then HIRE entertainment! Do not come into a gay bar and treat us like the entertainment, like we are animals in a zoo, or are there to be part of YOUR experience. The fact you are claiming "reverse discrimination" really is just the icing on the cake. Just because many of us do NOT want their parties in our spaces is NOT because we reject or resent (Resent?! REALLY?! ) them, but we want to enjoy ourselves without having to cater to the needs of those who are not part of the community.

Finally, since I was not clear, I will be so, and blunt, to boot: This is the LGBT group and if one cannot communicate ideas or disagreements in ways that are conducive to actual dialogue, but instead rely on LGBT stereotypes, heterosexism, or homo/bi/trans-phobia, then they will be blocked from this group.

This is your last warning. Do not minimize the LGBT experience in any way.

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