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johndoeX

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95. Go ahead!

Sun Jun 8, 2014, 12:06 PM

Jun 2014

You don't need me to hold your hand Seger. If it is a "neutral" opinion you want... go find one. Again, be sure to get a name if they disagree with what I have posted in Post 90 (which I have posted many times before).

We are just going round and round Seger... neither of us will convince each other of anything. So instead of doing the same thing over and over expecting different results (as does Beachy... i think he is up to 80 "fake VG" repetitions by now..lol).... go find your "neutral engineer".

Be sure to give him the relevant FAR regarding 1.15 VD... that is... if you can find it. If you are unable to find it.. and you show me a name of a "neutral engineer" who has a genuine interest, I will provide the relevant FAR.

Until then.... this argument has run its course.

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Skygate 911 [View all] damnedifIknow May 2014 OP

Good grief. B-List conspiracy huckster Rob Balsamo William Seger May 2014 #1

Please address the content of this video damnedifIknow May 2014 #2

I did. Read the links (n/t) William Seger May 2014 #3

Do you agree with analysis done on the WTC by the same people in your links? johndoeX May 2014 #7

I'm not surprised that you missed the point William Seger May 2014 #9

In other words.... johndoeX May 2014 #10

Here's some content: William Seger May 2014 #4

Seger once again shows his lack of aeronautical knowledge. johndoeX May 2014 #5

Cowboy Bob rides again William Seger May 2014 #8

Read and Learn Seger johndoeX May 2014 #11

SSDD William Seger May 2014 #12

You are so lost it would be funny if not so sad. johndoeX May 2014 #13

Maybe you've been watching that spinning wing logo too long William Seger May 2014 #14

Wow, look at all that tap dancing... lol johndoeX May 2014 #15

Welcome to the Rob Balsamo Show William Seger May 2014 #17

You still don't get it Seger? johndoeX May 2014 #18

Oh, I "get" what you're asserting William Seger May 2014 #19

Whoops, I missed this one..... johndoeX Jun 2014 #26

And you still missed it by a mile William Seger Jun 2014 #27

The Gish Gallop of fake Vg diagram and BS superbeachnut Jun 2014 #34

While you're at it, please explain this, too William Seger Jun 2014 #20

No, you still don't get it Seger.... johndoeX Jun 2014 #23

ROFL. There's that bizarra Balsamo "debating" technique again William Seger Jun 2014 #28

fake Vg diagram superbeachnut Jun 2014 #33

Using a journalist for aero knowledge, quote mining failure superbeachnut Jun 2014 #22

Still unable to read the credentials page Beachy? johndoeX Jun 2014 #25

Fake defintion used to help fake Vg diagram superbeachnut Jun 2014 #35

Any valid points in the video which prove it was not 175 hitting the WTC superbeachnut Jun 2014 #36

Jetblue Captain and Aeronautical Engineer Reviews Skygate 911 johndoeX May 2014 #6

Jetblue Captain and Aeronautical Engineer falls for Skygate 911 lies and fake Vg diagram superbeachnut Jun 2014 #71

Navy Top Gun and American Airlines 757/767 Captain Reviews Skygate 911 johndoeX May 2014 #16

Navy Top Gun and American Airlines 757/767 Captain Fooled by Skygate 911 superbeachnut Jun 2014 #72

Fraud from failed pilots superbeachnut Jun 2014 #21

Aww... how sweet... johndoeX Jun 2014 #24

Wow, that is lame, even for you William Seger Jun 2014 #29

Wrong again Seger... johndoeX Jun 2014 #30

LOL, so you didn't IGNORE the point William Seger Jun 2014 #31

Seger says - "If A > B and B > C, then A > C" johndoeX Jun 2014 #37

767 designed for 1.2Vd, and it can do better, why the fake Vg diagram superbeachnut Jun 2014 #39

Censura.net? Really? This is you "expert"? johndoeX Jun 2014 #41

math expert debunks pilots for truth math, pilot for truth forum thread confirms it superbeachnut Jun 2014 #44

Source fail johndoeX Jun 2014 #45

pilots for truth fail to decode what a mathematician can, so much for experts superbeachnut Jun 2014 #48

Post #27 William Seger Jun 2014 #49

It's much more simple than that Seger johndoeX Jun 2014 #51

Fake Vg diagram, inability to post the structural failure speed - pilots for truth superbeachnut Jun 2014 #53

Game over William Seger Jun 2014 #61

Wrong again Seger johndoeX Jun 2014 #63

Balsamo folds but continues to bullshit William Seger Jun 2014 #69

And yet.... johndoeX Jun 2014 #73

Our guest on the Rob Balsamo Show today is... William Seger Jun 2014 #76

You're still wrong Seger johndoeX Jun 2014 #79

Jeez... Yes, Rob, as I said, that is Flight Load William Seger Jun 2014 #82

Nice backpedaling... johndoeX Jun 2014 #83

more nonsense from pilots for truth superbeachnut Jun 2014 #85

Bullshit William Seger Jun 2014 #87

The Limit Case johndoeX Jun 2014 #90

Really? William Seger Jun 2014 #92

Go ahead! johndoeX Jun 2014 #95

ROFLMAO William Seger Jun 2014 #98

Translation johndoeX Jun 2014 #100

1.2Vd, 580 mph for flight 175 flutter free, better call for help superbeachnut Jun 2014 #93

Go ahead provide the source, make up more nonsense, and never explain superbeachnut Jun 2014 #70

In other words.... johndoeX Jun 2014 #74

Why can't the super pilots for truth source what they say they can source superbeachnut Jun 2014 #77

And now for accuracy... johndoeX Jun 2014 #80

pilots for truth talk Technobabble with aerodynamics and can't explain their dumb-speak superbeachnut Jun 2014 #81

"50'% Factor of Safety beyond VD" William Seger Jun 2014 #89

Math? johndoeX Jun 2014 #91

pilots for truth, making up more nonsense superbeachnut Jun 2014 #94

Yes, math, your worst nightmare William Seger Jun 2014 #97

Wrong again Seger. johndoeX Jun 2014 #99

Done William Seger Jun 2014 #101

School's out William Seger Jun 2014 #102

Wrong again Seger... johndoeX Jun 2014 #103

ROFLMAO William Seger Jun 2014 #104

Translation - johndoeX Jun 2014 #106

next stop, 11.2g physics applied to make up fake engine claims superbeachnut Jun 2014 #107

"You've already proven you are intellectually dishonest" William Seger Jun 2014 #108

The Score johndoeX Jun 2014 #109

Hmmm, looks like the score is still 1-0 William Seger Jun 2014 #110

Where is the core, why do they not help spread lies of impossible speeds, and fake Vg diagrams superbeachnut Jun 2014 #111

Balsamo's Corner delphi72 Jun 2014 #113

Great summary superbeachnut Jun 2014 #114

pilots for truth lies fail, structual failure at 425 KEAS remains a lie superbeachnut Jun 2014 #105

weak attack does not make the fake Vg diagram real superbeachnut Jun 2014 #32

"Debunkers" unable to plot their own VG when data is known... johndoeX Jun 2014 #38

a fake Vg diagram, photoshopped to fool superbeachnut Jun 2014 #40

Wrong... johndoeX Jun 2014 #42

pilots for truth unable to state the structural failure speed on their fake Vg diagram superbeachnut Jun 2014 #43

ATP? johndoeX Jun 2014 #46

no ATP yet? That is a test score, your FAA records show no ATP superbeachnut Jun 2014 #47

Why block out the date? delphi72 Jun 2014 #50

How does one erase knowledge? johndoeX Jun 2014 #52

I understand now delphi72 Jun 2014 #54

Boeing? johndoeX Jun 2014 #56

The big lie posted in the video preview superbeachnut Jun 2014 #58

Beachnut Flew a Desk johndoeX Jun 2014 #59

Fake Vg diagram supported with... nothing, pilots for truth fake Vg diagram supports lies about 911 superbeachnut Jun 2014 #60

sign of no evidence, for lies of "structual failure at 425 KEAS", and fake Vg diagram, flying a desk superbeachnut Jun 2014 #88

Boeing Phone Answer Lady Top Engineer delphi72 Jun 2014 #112

How does this save the fake Vg diagram or the structural failure speed lie superbeachnut Jun 2014 #55

Wrong again Beachy... n/t johndoeX Jun 2014 #57

Aw, Rob, I never said you were "nuts" William Seger Jun 2014 #62

I'm confused... johndoeX Jun 2014 #64

Paranoid conspiracy theorist fall for pilot for truth fake Vg diagrams and other lies superbeachnut Jun 2014 #65

"Paranoid"? johndoeX Jun 2014 #66

paranoid conspiracy theorist post more lies and paranoia instead of evidence superbeachnut Jun 2014 #67

Wow. There's one born every minute William Seger Jun 2014 #68

"fake VG" johndoeX Jun 2014 #75

A fake Vg diagram appears in the Skygate video with the lie of structual failure at 425 KEAS superbeachnut Jun 2014 #78

25 to 65 johndoeX Jun 2014 #84

pilots for truth make fake Vg diagram and explain how to fake the Vg diagram, without engineering superbeachnut Jun 2014 #86

structural failure zone for the 767, big lie, pilots for truth fail superbeachnut Jun 2014 #96

The Score remains... johndoeX Jun 2014 #115

In Your Corner delphi72 Jun 2014 #117

Well, you've definitely painted yourself into a corner William Seger Jun 2014 #118

The score, pilot for truth claims, zero evidence superbeachnut Jun 2014 #116

Operational Envelope Diagram delphi72 Jun 2014 #119

It's worse than that William Seger Jun 2014 #120

Boeing Comment on Flight Beyond Vg delphi72 Jun 2014 #121

Bump for Balsamo delphi72 Jun 2014 #122

My apologies 'delphi72' johndoeX Jun 2014 #127

Experience in Aviation? delphi72 Jun 2014 #140

Bump (II) for Balsamo delphi72 Jun 2014 #162

Seger is STILL unable to find the relevant FAR? johndoeX Jun 2014 #123

Why can't pilots for truth explain what they post? They never do. superbeachnut Jun 2014 #124

Why can't Beachnut post a source for his claims? johndoeX Jun 2014 #125

767 built to 1.2Vd, pilots for truth can't find the info superbeachnut Jun 2014 #126

Beachy Epic Fail johndoeX Jun 2014 #128

Pilots for truth can't find the spec the 767 was built to, a reflection of their fake 767 Vg diagram superbeachnut Jun 2014 #129

Beachy once again fails to source his claim johndoeX Jun 2014 #130

Here ya go William Seger Jun 2014 #133

Epic Fail Seger johndoeX Jun 2014 #135

You post stuff you can't explain; why superbeachnut Jun 2014 #137

You STILL don't understand structural engineering or the FAR William Seger Jun 2014 #131

Seger, are you familiar with real world exercise, practical application, and precedent? johndoeX Jun 2014 #134

Flight 175, oops, you lost this debate, superbeachnut Jun 2014 #136

ROFLMAO, so predictable, and yet... William Seger Jun 2014 #138

Wrong again Seger johndoeX Jun 2014 #139

So far... so true.... johndoeX Jun 2014 #172

Fake speeds, fake Vg diagram, failed physics, what is the next fake claim from pilots for truth superbeachnut Jun 2014 #132

Beachy cannot determine a VG Diagram when the data is known. johndoeX Jun 2014 #141

The silly lie Balsamo spreads based on failed research. superbeachnut Jun 2014 #142

Thank you for your insight Beachy... johndoeX Jun 2014 #143

p4t can't explain what they post superbeachnut Jun 2014 #144

Beachy -for more than the 5th time johndoeX Jun 2014 #147

No aero engineers at pilots for truth superbeachnut Jun 2014 #148

Wrong again Beachy.... johndoeX Jun 2014 #150

jet blue pilot goes crazy, talking conspracy theories superbeachnut Jun 2014 #155

Actually, that's more than the 5th time William Seger Jun 2014 #145

Wrong again Seger johndoeX Jun 2014 #146

Why can't pilots for truth explain their own questions, their own posts superbeachnut Jun 2014 #149

It means just what it says.... johndoeX Jun 2014 #151

I knew it, you can't explain your own points superbeachnut Jun 2014 #152

Use a dictionary if you are unfamiliar with the terms... johndoeX Jun 2014 #154

You can't explain your post? Why superbeachnut Jun 2014 #156

Wrong again Beachy.... johndoeX Jun 2014 #157

Of Course he Can't Explain His Posts delphi72 Jun 2014 #163

Fake Vg diagram, and more lies superbeachnut Jun 2014 #153

To any person with a WORKING brain SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD ABOUT 9/11. dballance Jun 2014 #158

Really? William Seger Jun 2014 #159

Yes, Really. dballance Jun 2014 #160

Phillip Marshall? delphi72 Jun 2014 #161

Too funny William Seger Jun 2014 #165

From The Supposed Excerpt: delphi72 Jun 2014 #166

American 88 was MY Typo when I transcribed. Thanks for pointing it out. dballance Jun 2014 #169

Anything else? All your claims are nonsense superbeachnut Jun 2014 #170

Of course, 'duhbunkers' never make a typo... johndoeX Jun 2014 #177

Yes, I have experienced similar results... johndoeX Jun 2014 #167

More nonsense sponsored by pilots for truth, more hearsay and exageration superbeachnut Jun 2014 #171

Working brain? You fell for lies in the "The Big Bamboozle", you were Bamboozled superbeachnut Jun 2014 #168

Just Dawned On Me delphi72 Jun 2014 #164

Uninspired Lies from pilots for truth superbeachnut Jun 2014 #173

Beachy, why have you not supported Seger? johndoeX Jun 2014 #174

Answer My Question delphi72 Jun 2014 #175

pilots for truth can't defend impossible speed lie, no support from rational Aero Engineers superbeachnut Jun 2014 #176