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TeamProg

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11. And there is this:: ""For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it's blown up in our faces""
Sat Dec 23, 2023, 11:52 AM
Dec 2023

From the TIMES OF ISRAEL !!! TOTALLY LEGIT MEDIA OUTLET!!

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces

By Tal Schneider 8 October 2023, 3:58 pm

For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.
The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.
Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad.

Hamas was also included in discussions about increasing the number of work permits Israel granted to Gazan laborers, which kept money flowing into Gaza, meaning food for families and the ability to purchase basic products.

Israeli officials said these permits, which allow Gazan laborers to earn higher salaries than they would in the enclave, were a powerful tool to help preserve calm.
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Most of the time, Israeli policy was to treat the Palestinian Authority as a burden and Hamas as an asset. Far-right MK Bezalel Smotrich, now the finance minister in the hardline government and leader of the Religious Zionism party, said so himself in 2015.
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Much, much more at the link, really interesting.

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"Truth or Fake: This video does not show Israel bulldozing Palestinians at Gaza's Kamal Adwan Hospital" lapucelle Dec 2023 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #2
We'll find out if CNN retracts it or the U.N. brings this report up at a later date. Thank you for TeamProg Dec 2023 #5
What do you expect CNN to retract? The report is that "X accuses Israel of Y". lapucelle Dec 2023 #6
If it was believed to be bogus, CNN would NOT have published the story. nt TeamProg Dec 2023 #8
"The story" is that someone made accusations. lapucelle Dec 2023 #10
Question: How many of these doctors were ranked hamas officers and/or operatives? Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #3
They were vetted by soldiers and found not to be Hamas - THEN SHOT! as per CNN. nt TeamProg Dec 2023 #4
That's not what the CNN report says. The CNN report says that it is an allegation. N/T lapucelle Dec 2023 #7
CNN also reviewed video evidence for some of the claims. TeamProg Dec 2023 #9
CNN reviewed the video, but did not confirm the claim afterwards. lapucelle Dec 2023 #12
No solid denial from the IDF - only that "Hamas has used hospitals" for cover. TeamProg Dec 2023 #14
I don't think there are enough hours in the day to refute every claim the Hamas Health Ministry makes. N/T lapucelle Dec 2023 #16
Same goes for the IDF, sorry. AloeVera Dec 2023 #18
There's a distinction between what Hamas says and what the IDF says. lapucelle Dec 2023 #22
Yes. They lie about different things. AloeVera Dec 2023 #30
"Sometimes Hamas tells the truth methinks". lapucelle Dec 2023 #32
Well 'ya got me there. AloeVera Dec 2023 #34
What truths have Hamas said? lapucelle Dec 2023 #35
You mean, not enough time and excuses to cover up / deny all of the atrocities, right? TeamProg Dec 2023 #20
What are you talking about? lapucelle Dec 2023 #24
Indeed David__77 Dec 2023 #28
Do you think that the Hamas terrorists who engaged in brutal rape and hands-on butchery will also suffer PTSD? lapucelle Dec 2023 #29
There will a lot of consequences of this criminal war. David__77 Dec 2023 #31
A picture is worth a thousand words? AloeVera Dec 2023 #21
... lapucelle Dec 2023 #23
So... AloeVera Dec 2023 #37
"Eyewitness testimony of medical staff"... lapucelle Dec 2023 #38
Good catch! AloeVera Dec 2023 #39
And there is this:: ""For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it's blown up in our faces"" TeamProg Dec 2023 #11
"Quick...look over here!" lapucelle Dec 2023 #13
Too funny. Sorry, that history cannot be erased even though Netanyahu backers keep trying. nt TeamProg Dec 2023 #15
Absurd. AloeVera Dec 2023 #17
"Claims relate to an eight-day operation by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) at the Kamal Adwan Hospital last week" Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #33
You missed some reporting on the 12th, 13th. AloeVera Dec 2023 #36
If you are referring to this CNN reporting on Dec 13, Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #40
Because Abu-Safia is such a reliable witness and medical staff have nothing to do with Hamas lapucelle Dec 2023 #25
A (bulldozer) crushed car on top of rubble outside Kamal Adwan Hospital. TeamProg Dec 2023 #19
Maybe the headline should actually read: "Doctors accuse Israeli troops of bulldozing a car". lapucelle Dec 2023 #26
Thank you again! TeamProg Dec 2023 #27
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