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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
18. Nothing has constrained Netanyahu from doing anything he wanted.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 03:27 PM
Feb 2017

Nothing is stopping him from going even more scorched-earth on Gaza and the West Bank, nothing is stopping him from bombing Iran for that matter(if he's so sure that's going to make a difference, why doesn't he just do it? Why is he so fixated with getting the US to do it? And why does he insist the entire West owes him unquestioning support on such a thing?). The only thing that has ever been occasionally withheld is outside approval. Why is he OWED outside approval for hardline tactics? The conflict with the Palestinians has nothing whatsoever to do with the betrayal of European Jews by Europe, the UK and the North American countries in the Thirties and Forties.

I have never said the Palestinian leaders were infallible. They've made some incredible mistakes.

But it has never been fair to punish ordinary Palestinians for the choices of their leaders.

And there has never been any possibility that doing so could ever cause the emergence of a better Palestinian leadership.

It's been sixteen uninterrupted years of immiseration that Netanyahu has inflicted on Palestine.

If that hasn't worked yet, it's never going to work.

Nothing can be changed by preserving the status quo. Nothing.

BTW...no Palestinian or other Arab leader EVER used the phrase "drive the Jews into the sea". Not one. Not ever.

So stop using it as if it's a term of art, as if it's what EVERY Palestinian thinks.

Yes, there are Arab bigots. There are an equal number of anti-Arab bigots in Israel and a much larger number in THIS country.

The fact that there are bigots doesn't mean that the Palestinians don't have a hell of a lot of legitimate grievances about what's been done to them, especially what's been done to them since 1967.

As Ben-Gurion recognized, it was madness to start the mass settler movement.

It should have been left at returning the people deported by Jordan(NOT the Palestinians)in 1948. Since Palestinians didn't deport those people, they'd have probably been glad to let them come back and welcomed them as neighbors-provided the IDF went home and stopped perpetually harassing them).

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"this woman was unwilling to admit that Muslims would commit such a horrific attack" ck4829 Feb 2017 #1
Let's not forget leftynyc Feb 2017 #2
"Offered" a state by colonialists wellst0nev0ter Feb 2017 #5
Now we're considering leftynyc Feb 2017 #6
Yes, the plan was drawn up by a bunch of former colonists wellst0nev0ter Feb 2017 #9
Non-natives? leftynyc Feb 2017 #10
"I'm guessing, you think terrorism should be rewarded" wellst0nev0ter Feb 2017 #11
I'm sure you must know leftynyc Feb 2017 #14
So how should the non-natives be accommodated hack89 Feb 2017 #12
It was never a colony sabbat hunter Feb 2017 #22
How else will they get a state? By seizing one through violence? hack89 Feb 2017 #7
It is an interesting read. The problem I have with it is that, DanTex Feb 2017 #3
Only one side has proven leftynyc Feb 2017 #4
Nothing would be better if the unjust occupation of Gaza had continued. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #13
You OBVIOUSLY have zero leftynyc Feb 2017 #15
I don't desire any such thing. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #16
You honestly don't think leftynyc Feb 2017 #17
Nothing has constrained Netanyahu from doing anything he wanted. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #18
Oh spare me leftynyc Feb 2017 #19
Israel as a country has humanity, as do ordinary Palestinians on a person-to-person basis. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #20
The stabbing leftynyc Feb 2017 #21
That leaves an implied sylogism that forces an obvious question FBaggins Mar 2017 #44
My theory: more than anything else, it's the pragmatic need to present the appearance Ken Burch Mar 2017 #45
SO HOW THE HELL did it all start? Israeli Feb 2017 #25
If you think continuing leftynyc Feb 2017 #26
You should remember that "Israeli" actually lives in Israel. Ken Burch Mar 2017 #27
I'm very well aware of where leftynyc Mar 2017 #28
What I'm saying is that BOTH groups have real ties to this land. Ken Burch Mar 2017 #29
Have you ever been to Israel? leftynyc Mar 2017 #30
If you detest Netanyahu, then you should call him out on his habit of equating any disagreement Ken Burch Mar 2017 #31
Trying to pretend leftynyc Mar 2017 #33
If I shake my fists at rank-and-file Palestinians, all of whom are powerless Ken Burch Mar 2017 #34
well said Ken .... Israeli Mar 2017 #35
Spare me the revisionism leftynyc Mar 2017 #36
I didn't lie. I don't have time to go back and check, but the implication was always there. Ken Burch Mar 2017 #37
ALWAYS there? leftynyc Mar 2017 #39
I realize that you think that. There have always been SOME people who have done that. Ken Burch Mar 2017 #41
"" I have no intention of proving myself to you because I don't care enough to take the time.' "" Israeli Mar 2017 #38
So much space leftynyc Mar 2017 #40
Shame ....... Israeli Mar 2017 #42
alternativly ..... Israeli Mar 2017 #43
BTW - your statement leftynyc Feb 2017 #24
Hamas sabbat hunter Feb 2017 #23
There is no way to defeat them without using completely scorched-earth tactics. Ken Burch Mar 2017 #32
Fantastic read. Thank you so much for posting this, Leftnyc. grossproffit Feb 2017 #8
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