Israel/Palestine

shira

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9. Do you make this up as you go along? BDS started with Omar Barghouti...

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 09:04 PM

Sep 2016

Sure, there were boycotts of S.Africa, but there was nothing called BDS back then.

Insisting that the newcomer is the true Scotsman only helps those who want the bi-national state to become a reality. It's all about the settlements, you know - by insisting that those who oppose the settlements are actually against against all of Israel is a good way to deflect any and all criticism of the settlements.

The BDS movement really is against all of Israel, supports terror, supports Hamas, wants 1-state from the river to the sea. You don't get to define BDS. You didn't even know it's a movement, not a tactic.

And these folks from the OP aren't BDS'ers. They don't support any full right of return nonsense. They certainly don't oppose a Jewish state like you and Barghouti's BDS movement does. Your buddies at Mondoweiss can't stand these 70 "Zionists". I'm not sure why you're so giddy about this. They're Zionists, they support a Jewish state. You do not.

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Over 70 American Intellectuals Call for 'Targeted Boycott' of Israeli Settlements [View all] Little Tich Sep 2016 OP

"No" FBaggins Sep 2016 #1

Self-proclaimed? Where do they call themselves intellectuals? Duppers Sep 2016 #4

Seriously? King_David Sep 2016 #47

The BDS crew doesn't think this is good enuff, too weak. shira Sep 2016 #2

BDS is a tool, not an organization. Little Tich Sep 2016 #5

BDS is a movement. So say the founders of BDS.... shira Sep 2016 #6

BDS has been around longer than the organization calling itself BDS. Little Tich Sep 2016 #8

Do you make this up as you go along? BDS started with Omar Barghouti... shira Sep 2016 #9

I think you prove my point perfectly. n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #10

I'm not sure you know what your point is. n/t shira Sep 2016 #11

"We, the undersigned, oppose an economic, political, or cultural boycott of Israel itself" oberliner Sep 2016 #3

Do you think that opposing the settlements in some form is a good idea, or is it better to not Little Tich Sep 2016 #7

They oppose settlements, but they do not support BDS. shira Sep 2016 #13

Seems like a good idea to me oberliner Sep 2016 #19

Which means they're not BDS. In fact, many of them oppose BDS. n/t shira Sep 2016 #12

All legislation against BDS targets the type that's against the settlements, Little Tich Sep 2016 #14

FreedomCall UK isn't about settlements. G4S admits they oppose BDS. shira Sep 2016 #15

FreedomCall UK divested due Israel's war on Gaza, and G4S were involved in the occupation. Little Tich Sep 2016 #16

Right, so FreedomCall UK wasn't about settlements. G4S wasn't either. shira Sep 2016 #17

Settlements and occupation. n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author shira Sep 2016 #27

Not FreedomCall. They cited the Gaza War, boycotted Israel not settlements. shira Sep 2016 #37

Israel bombing and killing civilians in occupied Gaza is the "occupation" part. Little Tich Sep 2016 #38

What part of FreedomCall boycotting all Israel (not just settlements) don't u get? shira Sep 2016 #41

So we have whittled down all those Israel BDSers on the list to only one company Little Tich Sep 2016 #44

No, you used that list to prove BDS is just anti-settlements.... shira Sep 2016 #45

I cherry-picked by choosing that list, I must admit... Little Tich Sep 2016 #46

So enough of the claim BDS is just about settlements. That's a lie. shira Oct 2016 #48

You keep using that chart. Have you even read it? FBaggins Sep 2016 #18

Settlements and occupation. n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #23

That list is a lie. Not surprising in the least given BDS lies all the time... shira Sep 2016 #33

Cactus Supermarket backed down just 2 days later. No boycott! shira Sep 2016 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author shira Sep 2016 #20

These boycotters do not support BDS. Narrative buster. shira Sep 2016 #21

The legal definition of BDS in every piece of legislation against BDS includes the occupied territor Little Tich Sep 2016 #22

You've been wrong about BDS the whole time, insisting it's only settlements. shira Sep 2016 #25

So these people in post #21 who eloquently call for boycotts, divestment Little Tich Sep 2016 #31

Right, these signees from the OP do not support BDS, just like Uri Avnery... shira Sep 2016 #32

It seems as those who signed the letter support BDS of the settlements, but oppose the all out BDS Little Tich Sep 2016 #34

Holy crap, there is no such thing as BDS of settlements. shira Sep 2016 #35

To recap: The lawmakers in 13 US states firmly believe that BDS of the settlements and BDS of Israel Little Tich Sep 2016 #40

You claim 2 different forms of BDS & you can't back that up. Game over. shira Sep 2016 #43

I wish there was a word to describe phallon Sep 2016 #26

Plenty of people criticize Netanyahu w/o going overboard. shira Sep 2016 #28

Not in Republican circles or the MSM phallon Sep 2016 #29

Republicans love him. But the NYT & WAPO criticize Bibi & Israel constantly. shira Sep 2016 #30

Netanyahu is a Hitler apologist who hates Palestinians and who will probably Little Tich Sep 2016 #39

Specious claim. n/t shira Sep 2016 #42