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shira

(30,109 posts)
75. Law of Return is only racist when Israel does it, right?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:12 PM
Aug 2016
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-law-of-return-only-racist-when-israel-does-it/

Yes, the Law of Return clearly constitutes an example of ethnic favoritism. However, Israel is far from alone from enacting such a law. There are many other countries across the globe that favor one ethnicity over all others in regards to immigration. This principle is called jus sanguinis (Latin for right of blood). Countries that invoke jus sanguinis laws include, among others:

Armenia – Article 14 of the Constitution of the Republic of Armenia states “Individuals of Armenian origin shall acquire citizenship of the Republic of Armenia through a simplified procedure.”
Bulgaria – Article 25(2) of the Constitution of the Republic of Bulgaria states “A person of Bulgarian origin shall acquire Bulgarian citizenship through a facilitated procedure.”
Croatia – Article 16 of the Law on Croatian Citizenship states “A person who belongs to the Croatian people with no domicile in the Republic of Croatia can acquire Croatian citizenship if he fulfills the requirements of Article 8, Paragraph 1, Point 5 of this Act.”
Hungary – Section 4(3) of the Hungarian Citizenship Act states “If the requirements set out in Paragraphs b) and d) of Subsection (1) are satisfied, upon request a non-Hungarian citizen whose ascendant was a Hungarian citizen or who is able to substantiate of being of Hungarian origin may be naturalized on preferential terms, if he/she proves that he/she is sufficiently proficient in the Hungarian language. “
Lithuania – Article 32(4) of the Constitution of the Republic of Lithuania states “Everyone who is Lithuanian may settle in Lithuania.”
Poland – Article 52(5) of the Constitution of the Republic of Poland states “Anyone whose Polish origin has been confirmed in accordance with statute may settle permanently in Poland.”
Serbia – Article 23 of the Law on Citizenship of the Republic of Serbia states “A member of Serbian or another nation or ethnic group from the territory of the Republic of Serbia, who is not residing in the territory of the Republic of Serbia, can be admitted to citizenship of the Republic of Serbia if he is 18 years old and if he is not deprived of working capacity and if he submits a written statement considering the Republic of Serbia his own state.”

How come we never hear any of the countries listed above being accused of apartheid? Or what about countries like Algeria, Bangladesh, Brunei, Djibouti, Iran, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, the United Arab Emirates or Yemen that don’t even allow Israeli passport holders to enter their country. Bahrain, Iran, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen take it a step further and deny entry to anyone who has an Israeli stamp in their passport, regardless of nationality. Where is all the angst over that?

There is a difference between the Jewish people and all the ethnic groups listed above. The Jewish people have been subjected to persecution for centuries after being exiled from their land by the Romans in 70 CE. The other ethnic groups have not been expelled from their land or suffered the persecution the Jews have experienced. The Jewish people are still recovering from their expulsion from the Land of Israel almost 2,000 years ago.


There are also more western EU and NATO nations...

Greece: Ethnic Greeks can obtain Greek citizenship by two methods under the Code of Greek Nationality. Article 5 allows ethnic Greeks who are stateless (which, in practice, includes those who voluntarily renounce their nationality) to obtain citizenship upon application to a Greek consular official.

Italy: The nationality law of Italy bestows citizenship jure sanguinis. There is no limit of generations for the citizenship via blood. However, the first citizens of the modern Italian state were alive on 17 March 1861 when the state was officially formed, and for this reason all claims of Italian citizenship by jure sanguinis must stem from an ancestor who was living after 16 March 1861.

Spain: A Spanish law passed in 2015 allows individuals who can prove descent from the Sephardic Jews who were exiled in 1492 following the Alhambra Decree and who can show a "special link" to Spain to apply for dual citizenship. Spain had previously allowed application for such individuals but had required that they give up their citizenship from their other country. The new law has no such requirement.[13]

Turkey: Turkish law allows persons of Turkish origin and their spouse and children, to apply for naturalization without the five-year waiting period applicable to other immigrants. Turkey and Greece reciprocally expelled their minorities in the early 1920s after World War I. They were mandated by international treaty to accept incoming populations as citizens based on ethnic background.


But it's only racist when Israel does it.

Is that right?

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The American Jews Who've Exchanged Their Utopian Myths About Israel for Demonic Ones Little Tich Aug 2016 #1
Hyperbole a little? "Demonic ones?" You sound like an ill-educated evangelical christian. Nitram Aug 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Aug 2016 #20
"It is hard to know whether to be more offended by their arrogance or their idiocy." shira Aug 2016 #2
The historians argue that Israel should become a democracy instead of "a Jewish State." Nitram Aug 2016 #4
Israel is a democracy oberliner Aug 2016 #7
Israel does indeed 'claim' to be a democracy. Nitram Aug 2016 #9
Israel doesn't have checkpoints within Israel. aranthus Aug 2016 #10
Not legally. But in all practical terms, they are israeli citizens. DetlefK Aug 2016 #52
You don't know what you're writing about. Areas A & B of the W.Bank.... shira Aug 2016 #54
Do they have the authority to arrest Westbank-settlers? DetlefK Aug 2016 #55
Not in areas A and B they don't, because settlers don't live there. shira Aug 2016 #57
Just answer this: DetlefK Aug 2016 #61
You're pretending there's no difference between areas A,B,C.... shira Aug 2016 #62
Let's try this for the last time: DetlefK Aug 2016 #63
Finally....it's now about area C and I admit that's your strongest argument. shira Aug 2016 #64
The historians are arguing that Israel shouldn't be Jewish. aranthus Aug 2016 #11
No state that is tied to a religion can be a true democracy. Nitram Aug 2016 #12
Bull. aranthus Aug 2016 #15
Try driving through an Orthodox community in Israel on Saturday. Nitram Aug 2016 #16
Which has nothing to do with whether the state is democratic.n/t aranthus Aug 2016 #18
In a democracy the rule of law is paramount. Nitram Aug 2016 #25
Where is your proof that they are "allowed"? aranthus Aug 2016 #29
I see that NetaNyahu has threateneed to shoot "stone throwers," or sentence them to 20-year terms. Nitram Aug 2016 #30
The question is whether racism is in line with democratic values. Little Tich Aug 2016 #5
Israel is one of the least racist countries in the world oberliner Aug 2016 #8
Oberliner, on what do you base the claim that Israeel is "ne of the least Nitram Aug 2016 #14
Israel is the most racist democratic country I know of. Little Tich Aug 2016 #21
If you ignore all threats Israel has faced since 1948... shira Aug 2016 #31
You seem to be arguing that Israeli racism and discrimination towards Arabs is justified? Little Tich Aug 2016 #35
Just contextualizing the situation as Israel has been under attack since 1948.... shira Aug 2016 #48
Perhaps we should blame anti-Semitism on "the Jews" too? Little Tich Aug 2016 #49
It's not 100% due to racism. It's a matter of survival. shira Aug 2016 #53
Really? Have you ever been to Australia? King_David Aug 2016 #34
I currently live in Australia, so I'm well aware of Australian racist attitudes. Little Tich Aug 2016 #37
I've been to both Israel and Australia, and no , it's not even close . King_David Aug 2016 #42
Being a Jewish State isn't racist. aranthus Aug 2016 #13
No, but killing and maiming thousands of Palestinian civilians is. Nitram Aug 2016 #17
You are equating what Israel does to defend itself aranthus Aug 2016 #19
Nazi Germany, as you probaly know, invaded Russia with thousands of tanks and Nitram Aug 2016 #26
And the Arabs have made war on Israel for almost 70 years. aranthus Aug 2016 #28
I think it's more likely that it's Israel's treatment of Palestinians that's the main cause for Little Tich Aug 2016 #22
Based on what? aranthus Aug 2016 #27
Gee, thanks making my arguments for me... Little Tich Aug 2016 #38
Just as I thought, you don't have one. aranthus Aug 2016 #45
I don't think the OP is a straw man. Little Tich Aug 2016 #50
Of course it is. The vicious, racist, genocidal hatreds of Palestinian leaders.... shira Aug 2016 #56
They're bigoted towards religious Jews as well... shira Aug 2016 #58
More silliness from the OP... shira Aug 2016 #59
Some people look at the right of return as a right to return to their ancestral homeland, Little Tich Aug 2016 #65
You believe the LoR is racist because you support the destruction of the Jewish state.... shira Aug 2016 #66
So racism is a necessary component of Zionism then? Little Tich Aug 2016 #67
Zionism = Indigenous Jewish people reclaiming their country, self-rule..... shira Aug 2016 #68
Ah. So what Israel is doing to the Palestinians in the name of Zionism would be considered racism if Little Tich Aug 2016 #69
That's the BDS movement, thinking their goal of destroying the Jewish state.... shira Aug 2016 #70
I feel that the OP is running out of steam. Little Tich Aug 2016 #71
The OP has been refuted as utter idiocy throughout the discussion here. n/t shira Aug 2016 #74
Law of Return is only racist when Israel does it, right? shira Aug 2016 #75
It's a good question and you deserve an answer. Little Tich Aug 2016 #76
Israel's LoR policy is no different than other western nations.... shira Aug 2016 #77
BDS calls for the destruction of the Jewish state & supports terror.... shira Aug 2016 #47
Fascinating follow up to your OP Little Tich..... Israeli Aug 2016 #6
This is fun... Little Tich Aug 2016 #24
Diner & Feld are being lambasted for being idiots. shira Aug 2016 #32
I think that all attempts to refute the OP have failed sofar. Hasia Diner and Marjorie Feld are Little Tich Aug 2016 #39
It's an idiotic article. Here's an example... shira Aug 2016 #46
I think the OP has a valid point when it comes to Jewish communities not in Israel. Little Tich Aug 2016 #51
More than 9 in 10 Jews worldwide have a strong connection with Israel... shira Aug 2016 #60
For sure ...... Israeli Aug 2016 #40
Did Gilad Erdan just imply that Haaretz is a threat to Israel's democracy? Little Tich Aug 2016 #43
LOL......... Israeli Aug 2016 #44
Fun could be over ... Israeli Aug 2016 #72
Perhaps the Israeli government should spend more time protecting children than censoring twitter. Little Tich Aug 2016 #73
You should put all your posts into a blog "israeycool -watch" would be a good name... King_David Aug 2016 #33
You are welcome KD .... Israeli Aug 2016 #41
How Did Zionism Become a Dirty Word on Campus? Little Tich Aug 2016 #23
The ‘New York Times’ is dead set on marginalizing Jewish anti-Zionism Little Tich Aug 2016 #36
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