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PBC_Democrat

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8. It has be done a different way ...
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 10:44 AM
Mar 2021

If the food you consume from a private farmer is regulated, why shouldn't the farmers use of workers be regulated.

>>> It is regulated. The Department of Labor and several state and local agencies have jurisdiction. Getting them to exercise proper oversight is a different problem.

If the Supreme Court thinks this is a violation of the 4th Amendment, then do police need a search warrant to walk onto any private persons' property, every and anytime?

>>> They don't, law enforcement in the jurisdiction have broad powers to enter private property under certain circumstances. But even that power is subject to the need for search warrants or exigent circumstances.

If a Union Labor advocate, walks on a property to ask a few questions and talk to the workers to make sure their rights are not being violated or to make sure they are not being held in slavery or indentured servitude, how is that a problem.

>>> Simply put - They are trespassing. They have no right to be there - no matter how honorable their intentions. Now, if one of the workers invites a union organizer over for a BBQ and a few dozen friends stop by ... That's all good. IF I suspect the bank down the street is treating their workers poorly, do I have the right to wander around the office to check on them?

If farmers treat their workers so well, what are they afraid of, and why don't they support jail time for employers of illegal workers. Most of the farm workers are the most vulnerable of our society, for worker exploitation.

>>> Totally agree with all points but we can't dismantle the 4th amendment. Remember that's the one that keep police from searching you, your vehicle, or your home with probable cause or a warrant. The correct way is expose the mistreatment in the local media, sadly shaming employers works well.

You could say well let the department of labor handle it, and I'd say you have an organization doing this free from tax dollars, the local unions.

>>> DoL is part of the government, a union is a private organization. Animal control is part of the government, ASPCA is a private organization. Animal control can come on my property to investigate animal abuse - the ASPCA can't. Government organizations, federal and local, work for us and we need to force them to do their jobs.

Easier said than done ...

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