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Warren DeMontague

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18. I think there is a lot of spurious 'research' that is done with an agenda in mind.

Sun Feb 15, 2015, 08:03 PM

Feb 2015

I highly doubt that men (or anyone) generally watch porn and then come away with a head full of "rapey rape rape rape ughhhhhh". It sounds like bullshit anecdote, to me.

Like the "research" that "proves objectification" because men are more likely to recognize a woman's body in a bathing suit, upside down, as a woman, than they are likely to recognize an upside down man. Because in the world of agenda-driven sociological asshattery, seeing an upside down woman as a woman proves men don't see women as women. Or something.

It's very simple. If Dworkin had been within 100 light-years of being right about this shit, rape numbers would have gone through the roof between the days of "sneaking into the corner newstand to buy a copy of Oui in a brown paper bag" and "downloading pictures of Asia Carrera from freeones". They didn't, and it's impossible to argue that they have.

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Dworkin said it, so it must be true Major Nikon Feb 2015 #1

Agree deist99 Feb 2015 #2

If one genuinely wants to reduce rapes, it seems rational to try to understand actual causes Major Nikon Feb 2015 #3

Thanks deist99 Feb 2015 #5

The hazzard that some succumb is the dangerous belief that rape is a crime of passion Major Nikon Feb 2015 #8

? deist99 Feb 2015 #10

There's no analogy that adequately describes rape Major Nikon Feb 2015 #13

I wrote a college paper on this topic. Veilex Feb 2015 #4

Research deist99 Feb 2015 #6

Based on what I've researched, I think it is distinctly possible. Veilex Feb 2015 #7

This is an interesting read... Major Nikon Feb 2015 #9

Thanks deist99 Feb 2015 #11

85% deist99 Feb 2015 #12

Good luck with that Major Nikon Feb 2015 #14

Heh. Not recommended. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2015 #15

There's two different arguments, which seem to get conflated. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #16

Research deist99 Feb 2015 #17

I think there is a lot of spurious 'research' that is done with an agenda in mind. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #18

Agree deist99 Feb 2015 #19

I think there are maybe 5 or 6 people who actually, genuinely believe that blibber. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #20

"the two things simply don't have a ton do with each other"... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #21