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westerebus

(2,978 posts)
8. I'm not so sure.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:20 PM
Apr 2014

I think it's more to do with people simply becoming distrustful of the current political organizations. Either party has 20-25% of the vote depending on location. It's the unaffiliated, the independents that swing elections.

I just do not see many of the men I know joining or rejoining the Democratic Party. Those who were in have moved to the independent side of the rooster. Some remain and will vote the party line or stay home if they do not like the state of affairs.

The republican men I know are mostly anti-tax pro gun and for the most part don't care about social issues. Then there's the true crazy that are the edge that gets the most attention and are the faux news believers. They will never come over.

So what's left are the independents. What's their concern? JOBS. Jobs that pay decent wages. Jobs that a man can do that takes care of his family. That may sound sexist to some people, but, it is what it is.

There is nothing equitable in a capitalistic economic system. Men have born the brunt of job losses and job displacement for the last half a century.

The party that puts up the person who's willing to go all in to turn this economy into the powerhouse it can be will get the votes of men.

The question to ask is did men vote for R-money because of his social values? Or just because he was a rich white guy? I'd bet rich white guy is the answer.

While the 46% of us who did vote Obama may have thought we are not going to make the mistake that was made when Jimmy Carter was dumped for a slickster named Raygun. I'm sure there are many other reasons to have voted Obama to a second term, his economic policy is not one of them IMO.

All that said, I do think starting with ending the draft for males in this country is a stepping stone in the right direction. Gender equality is a major major plus.

The rest is proof positive that lifting up both genders in terms of health, economics and general welfare ensures benefits for all which remains the goal of progressive thinkers.

It is and will never be a zero sum game when addressing gender issues which require we share equally in the responsibility and benefits that would make life that much better for everyone.

thanks for listening..


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It's a weird thing Inkfreak Apr 2014 #1
Given the alternatives, I prefer dealing with the consequences of telling the truth. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #2
I enjoy your posts. Always read em. Inkfreak Apr 2014 #3
Thanks lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #7
i don't think your post was good at all CreekDog Apr 2014 #12
You don't have to screw over every other goup in the country to court the white male vote. nt rrneck Apr 2014 #16
Hear hear. nt rrneck Apr 2014 #5
Agreed. And one issue to lose: Gun control. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #39
I can get behind some of these more than others. rrneck Apr 2014 #4
This is primarily a political manifesto, not a policy one. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #6
Not sure of the institutional response, but you are right Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #40
I'm not so sure. westerebus Apr 2014 #8
The unspoken presumption here is that men are not motivated by self interest. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #9
It is strange. westerebus Apr 2014 #10
black men haven't left the Democratic party at all, what are you talking about? CreekDog Apr 2014 #11
Actually the disparity is greater for those groups Major Nikon Apr 2014 #13
so what CreekDog Apr 2014 #14
You seem to think it's a zero sum game Major Nikon Apr 2014 #15
you're changing the subject, if you're not going to stick with the point you made CreekDog Apr 2014 #17
Turning a thread about male voters into a thread about minority voters isn't changing the subject? Major Nikon Apr 2014 #18
you'd rather just talk about white voters? CreekDog Apr 2014 #19
I'd rather talk about male voters Major Nikon Apr 2014 #23
Consciously conceding the votes of the majority of voters is bad strategy. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #24
then why are you doing it? CreekDog Apr 2014 #26
I'm doing no such thing. Period. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #27
What do you think happens to the created White House offices Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #20
All the more reason that Republicans should not win. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #21
so you'd support creation of an office of women and girls? CreekDog Apr 2014 #22
I don't have to support it, it's already there. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #28
so you don't support it, but you want one for men and boys created anyway CreekDog Apr 2014 #30
I wouldn't fully support either without the other. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #32
Granted. Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #25
The next Republican president won't eliminate the office of women and girls. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #29
That's fair Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #31
And I'd like to add that if a Republican does come along next year and screw it up... lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #33
There may never be another Republican president Major Nikon Apr 2014 #34
the majority of voters are women CreekDog Apr 2014 #35
Married women vote like their husbands. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #36
you're saying that when your wife chooses a candidate you don't just go along with that? CreekDog Apr 2014 #37
51% of married women voted for Romney. 61% of single women voted for Obama. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #38
Jobs, jobs, jobs, reforming immigration laws and jobs. bettyellen May 2014 #41
Number two is just so spot-on. No place is more discriminatory than the typical family court. n/t Darkhawk32 May 2014 #42
Thanks. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #43
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