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In reply to the discussion: Why don't more men identify as liberal? [View all]westerebus
(2,978 posts)Back to the economic basics? Individual property rights. Free markets. Free trade.
Morphed into capitalism which ran amok.
The rule of law?
The S&L prosecutions compared to the Wall Street windfall of 2008.
Religious freedom?
Atheist liberal or church going liberal on a scale of 1 to 10 who's the liberal?
To be secure in one's own person and one's property?
Foreclosure fraud on an epic scale destroying trillions of dollars of generational wealth building.
Human rights?
America has the largest prison population on the planet.
Organized labor?
Do they have a seat at the table when profit distribution commences?
You can say yes, but, the conservatives caused this and are far far worse. To which I will say, do you not see a pattern here? The last time there was a liberal Congress they impeached Nixon and you could count the liberals in it on two hands.
Progressive policy and liberal ideas are wonderful things. Idealism needs to come to grips with reality.
America rejected Nixon and went for Kennedy, they wanted fresh ideas to inspire them. America got blood instead. LBJ cajoled the Congress into passing the Civil Rights act and then he quit. Nixon to Ford interrupted by Carter. Regan to Bush to Clinton. Bush to Obama.
It is not that difficult to see where the neo-cons came from or the neo-liberal policies they spawned.
Just follow the money. From the arms makers to the poppy fields to the three letter organizations that complete the circle. With the exception of Carter, none of them are liberals.
The idea that liberalism is untarnished is as worthy as conservatism is not rewarded in this country.
Remove the campaign speeches and what do you get? The American Empire in all its ghastly glory.
What is worse is conservatism fails more so.
I reject the idea that a title carries any more burden than it accepted for itself.
I dissent.
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