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Bonobo

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Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:05 AM Nov 2013

There Is No Such Thing As Radical Feminism Anymore [View all]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/25/there-is-no-such-thing-as-radical-feminism-anymore/

There Is No Such Thing As Radical Feminism Anymore
By Amanda Marcotte
Thursday, July 25, 2013 19:12 EST




Don’t get me wrong! There was. In the 60s and 70s, there were radical feminists who were distinguishing themselves from liberal feminists. Radical feminists agreed with liberal feminists that we should change the laws to recognize women’s equality, but they also believed that we needed to change the culture. It was not enough to pass the ERA or legalize abortion, they believed, but we should also talk about cultural issues, such as misogyny, objectification, rape, and domestic violence.

In other words, what was once “radical” feminism is now mainstream feminism.

I realize there are anti-trans, anti-sex feminists out there who call themselves radical feminists, but I, simply put, don’t agree. What’s radical about them? They are to the right of the mainstream feminist movement. They often have more in common with the conservatives decrying mainstream feminism as “radical” than they do the original radical feminists who had consciousness-raising groups and abortion speak outs and who started Ms Magazine.

I don’t call anti-trans feminists “radical”. I call them reactionary. I don’t even really think of them as feminists, because feminism is about breaking down rigid gender ideology. They want to uphold rigid gender ideology, even if they differ from the patriarchy on what should go into the buckets we label “man” and “woman”.
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I never met an anti-transgender feminist. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #1
Really? Would you like some links? Bonobo Nov 2013 #2
You can give links but in real life I have many transgender and feminist friends... hrmjustin Nov 2013 #3
Many are equity feminists that have no issues with transgendered folks Major Nikon Nov 2013 #5
I have never met a feminist with a problem with transgendered folk. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #7
No offense, but that doesn't mean much. Bonobo Nov 2013 #8
ok that is fine but I live in the real world and I have never dealt with... hrmjustin Nov 2013 #9
At least one, banned repeatedly for making bigoted anti-trans statements, is having their presence Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #22
Maybe that's not the "real world" either nt ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #24
One of them got the boot from here Major Nikon Nov 2013 #4
Ok but in the real world I have never encountered this. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #6
You keep saying that, but I have never met a white supremacist either. Bonobo Nov 2013 #10
Give me whatever links you want. When I deal with the real world I do not see this. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #11
I heard you, but you DO realize that as real as the world you deal with is... Bonobo Nov 2013 #12
no I am the g not the t in Lgbt but I can tell you this, most of the problems that I or my hrmjustin Nov 2013 #13
Perhaps that is true, but it is pretty irrelevant to the OP. nt Bonobo Nov 2013 #14
ok but I am allowed to share my real world experience on this am I not? hrmjustin Nov 2013 #15
Of course. Bonobo Nov 2013 #16
Sure. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #17
By the way, I do agree that it is an aberration. Bonobo Nov 2013 #18
links, you say? Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #20
Apparently you weren't in meta much, then, in early-mid 2012. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #19
i have, more than a few. they are out there like any other group that hates people. loli phabay Nov 2013 #21
They seem to make a big deal about not considering themselves "sperm receptacles" Bonobo Nov 2013 #23
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