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Showing Original Post only (View all)An Argument I'm Sick of Hearing! [View all]
**************Barack Obama Group***************Bernie Sanders is hardly the first person to make this argument. But he's the one that is running for president and should know better. So let's take a look at what he said and break it down.
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The whole idea of a candidate for president suggesting that our Chief Executive shouldn't negotiate with the opposition frankly sounds like something Sen. Ted Cruz would propose. And given the make-up of Congress, it would lead to the result Cruz got in 2013 - perpetual government shut-downs. If a Democratic president were to follow such a path, voters would be right to blame her/him for that. That is NOT the way to advance a progressive agenda.
When it comes to his own presidential aspirations, perhaps Sanders assumes that he'll be swept into office with a Democratic majority in the House and a super-majority in the Senate. That would allow him to only have to negotiate with Democrats (good luck with that, Bernie!) But short of that, at some point someone needs to ask him whether or not he envisions four years of government shut-downs amidst zero legislative accomplishments as he refuses to negotiate with Republicans.
I think the evidence is overwhelming that the Republicans, the John Boehners, Mitch McConnells and others had zero intention of negotiating with the President on any serious compromising. Their function and their goal was to obstruct, obstruct, obstruct, and to quite frankly it took the President too many years to figure that out and I think in the last couple years he has been a stronger President and a better President because he understands there is nothing to negotiate with these guys.
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The whole idea of a candidate for president suggesting that our Chief Executive shouldn't negotiate with the opposition frankly sounds like something Sen. Ted Cruz would propose. And given the make-up of Congress, it would lead to the result Cruz got in 2013 - perpetual government shut-downs. If a Democratic president were to follow such a path, voters would be right to blame her/him for that. That is NOT the way to advance a progressive agenda.
When it comes to his own presidential aspirations, perhaps Sanders assumes that he'll be swept into office with a Democratic majority in the House and a super-majority in the Senate. That would allow him to only have to negotiate with Democrats (good luck with that, Bernie!) But short of that, at some point someone needs to ask him whether or not he envisions four years of government shut-downs amidst zero legislative accomplishments as he refuses to negotiate with Republicans.
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It's a ridiculous argument, but I consider the source. BS wanted to primary Obama in '12.
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2015
#1
Until I saw that factoid posted here, I didn't know that. It would have changed my mind about him.
freshwest
Aug 2015
#3
Yeah, he's using the Democratic party's platform to run against the Successful and Popular
Cha
Aug 2015
#13
Looked to me like a defense of Obama against the obstructions he got in Congress.
Cleita
Aug 2015
#15
No, BS is condescending as hell.. telling it took President Obama too long to figure it out..
Cha
Aug 2015
#22
FYI, this was alerted as an SOP violation of the Barack Obama group. Needless to say, I do not agree
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#20
Oh yeah.. the alerter can't stand to have us talking about President Obama in the BOG
Cha
Aug 2015
#21