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Denzil_DC

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12. See, that's one of Scottish Labour's major problems right there.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 07:09 PM
Jun 2017

It's all gang up with the Tories and Lib Dems to bash the SNP on devolved issues and hyped-up hysteria about a referendum issue (that had already been voted through at Holyrood) at a Westminster election at all costs, when their efforts in alliance with the Scottish Tories and Lib Dems sabotaged their own party's prospects of coming a lot closer to ousting the Tories at Westminster. They came away from it with 7 seats, the Tories won 13.

Not that I expect the rump of Labour that's left up here to join the dots. They weren't thinking UK-wide because they didn't support Corbyn, and thought Labour had barely a chance of surviving, let alone reducing the Tories' majority to a wafer.

Let's hope the new intake of MPs they're sending down south are better than the last lot ("the feeble fifty&quot , which by all accounts (from English Labour MPs no less) were useless and too obsessed with internal party jockeying to be effective.

ETA: Oh, and:




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Arthur Scargill @ScargillArthur

The mentality of the anti-referendum protest voters in Scotland revealed: if they are moronic enough to vote Conservative, it says it all.

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From the same Twitter thread:

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In case anyone's skeptical about an out-of-context interview quote, Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #1
Heh. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #3
Not convincing enough? Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #2
Scottish Labour STILL hasn't learned from the mistake it made in the Indyref Ken Burch Jun 2017 #5
More evidence that Dugdale has to go. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #4
Davidson has been cosying up with the Scottish Orange Order for some time. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #6
An alliance between Ruth and the Orange Order would involve some VERY delicate phraseology. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #7
The problem's been growing in Scotland for some time, and Scottish Labour's not immune. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #8
A few more examples since I have the tabs open on my browser: Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #9
I'm not sure there's much appetite for replacing Dugdale T_i_B Jun 2017 #10
If they turn on her though, the government falls... Ken Burch Jun 2017 #11
I think Corbyn is pretty safe TBH T_i_B Jun 2017 #15
See, that's one of Scottish Labour's major problems right there. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #12
Here's Ruth "Paper Tiger" Davidson Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #13
Actually, she exits stage RIGHT...as you'd expect a Tory(or Snagglepuss) to do. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #14
My mistake! n/t Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #16
It's all right...I've done theatre off and on for years. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #25
I did a bit in my youth, but sleep's been a bit short the last few days Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Jun 2017 #23
The SNP got lucky - they won a lot of their seats with tiny majorities muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #17
ALL the parties got lucky, except when they didn't. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #18
Yeah, but I'm not cherrypicking - that was all close seats (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #19
Yeah, but saying a certain party "got lucky" is a bit meaningless. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #20
OK, to illustrate some of what I'm saying here, Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #21
A bit more analysis of some of the dynamics in Scotland (including my Argyll & Bute constituency) Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #22
Could you pm me that spreadsheet? Thanks. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #24
Lest anyone think this was purely post-poll petulance on my part, Denzil_DC Jul 2017 #27
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