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Ken Burch

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7. An alliance between Ruth and the Orange Order would involve some VERY delicate phraseology.

Reply to Denzil_DC (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 10, 2017, 10:35 PM

Jun 2017

While I agree with you that Dugdale should not have done anything that read as an alliance, it was never a realistic expectation that Corbyn would endorse Scottish independence. Can you imagine any UK party leader hanging on to her or his job after doing that?

The SNP manifesto did likely influence Corybn's policies at some level-and it's somewhere between pathetic and delusional that Dugdale still seems to feel she has to challenge the SNP from the right, when there are virtually no SNP-Labour "swing voters" who think the SNP is too far to the left on anything.

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How Scottish Labour's Kezia Dugdale may have handed the election to the Tories [View all] Denzil_DC Jun 2017 OP

In case anyone's skeptical about an out-of-context interview quote, Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #1

Heh. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #3

Not convincing enough? Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #2

Scottish Labour STILL hasn't learned from the mistake it made in the Indyref Ken Burch Jun 2017 #5

More evidence that Dugdale has to go. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #4

Davidson has been cosying up with the Scottish Orange Order for some time. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #6

An alliance between Ruth and the Orange Order would involve some VERY delicate phraseology. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #7

The problem's been growing in Scotland for some time, and Scottish Labour's not immune. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #8

A few more examples since I have the tabs open on my browser: Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #9

I'm not sure there's much appetite for replacing Dugdale T_i_B Jun 2017 #10

If they turn on her though, the government falls... Ken Burch Jun 2017 #11

I think Corbyn is pretty safe TBH T_i_B Jun 2017 #15

See, that's one of Scottish Labour's major problems right there. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #12

Here's Ruth "Paper Tiger" Davidson Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #13

Actually, she exits stage RIGHT...as you'd expect a Tory(or Snagglepuss) to do. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #14

My mistake! n/t Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #16

It's all right...I've done theatre off and on for years. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #25

I did a bit in my youth, but sleep's been a bit short the last few days Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Jun 2017 #23

The SNP got lucky - they won a lot of their seats with tiny majorities muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #17

ALL the parties got lucky, except when they didn't. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #18

Yeah, but I'm not cherrypicking - that was all close seats (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #19

Yeah, but saying a certain party "got lucky" is a bit meaningless. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #20

OK, to illustrate some of what I'm saying here, Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #21

A bit more analysis of some of the dynamics in Scotland (including my Argyll & Bute constituency) Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #22

Could you pm me that spreadsheet? Thanks. Ken Burch Jun 2017 #24

Lest anyone think this was purely post-poll petulance on my part, Denzil_DC Jul 2017 #27