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Showing Original Post only (View all)New Jersey Legislators Aim To Ban Most In-Car Subscriptions [View all]
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https://www.thedrive.com/news/new-jersey-legislators-aim-to-ban-most-in-car-subscriptionsNew Jersey Legislators Aim To Ban Most In-Car Subscriptions
New Jersey officials arent amused by automakers attempts to charge for the use of pre-installed hardware in cars, such as heated seats.
BY PETER HOLDERITH | PUBLISHED OCT 19, 2022 4:04 PM
Subscriptions for in-car services: Nobody seems to want thembesides automakers, of course. Paying a subscription for things like heated seats or remote start is something most people aren't enthusiastic about. Luckily for them, neither are lawmakers in New Jersey. Two state legislators are proposing a bill that would ban car companies from "[offering consumers] a subscription service for any motor vehicle feature" that "utilizes components and hardware already installed on the motor vehicle at the time of purchase." Yes, that would include a pre-installed heating element in a seat. In fact, that's explicitly mentioned.
The bill has one stipulation, however. The subscription would only be unlawful if there was no "ongoing expense to the dealer, manufacturer, or any third-party service provider." In other words, if an automaker or other associated party can prove that it costs money to maintain the feature and/or service in question, then it'd be legally allowed. This would include services like OnStar and such.
The way "ongoing expense" is interpreted is going to be key here, assuming the bill makes it into law. This, obviously, is not guaranteed. In theory, a car company could claim that over-the-air updates and their associated data costs constitute an ongoing expense. That means anything to do with connected features could theoretically be charged for. Since a car needs an internet connection in order to purchase subscriptions, well, that might make this particular piece of legislation worthless. On the other hand, if the core value of the subscription is derived from the pre-installed hardware as opposed to the data connection itself, then there is probably a case to be made.
Besides heated seats, the bill also mentions "driver assistance." That could be a problem for systems like Tesla's autopilot or General Motors' Super Cruise, both of which are going to a subscription model. Both of these systems cost money to maintain, though, especially Super Cruise. The system requires enabled highways to be scanned with Lidar. Tesla's AutoPilot and "Full Self-Driving" are also actively updated and maintained, which costs money.
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New Jersey officials arent amused by automakers attempts to charge for the use of pre-installed hardware in cars, such as heated seats.
BY PETER HOLDERITH | PUBLISHED OCT 19, 2022 4:04 PM
Subscriptions for in-car services: Nobody seems to want thembesides automakers, of course. Paying a subscription for things like heated seats or remote start is something most people aren't enthusiastic about. Luckily for them, neither are lawmakers in New Jersey. Two state legislators are proposing a bill that would ban car companies from "[offering consumers] a subscription service for any motor vehicle feature" that "utilizes components and hardware already installed on the motor vehicle at the time of purchase." Yes, that would include a pre-installed heating element in a seat. In fact, that's explicitly mentioned.
The bill has one stipulation, however. The subscription would only be unlawful if there was no "ongoing expense to the dealer, manufacturer, or any third-party service provider." In other words, if an automaker or other associated party can prove that it costs money to maintain the feature and/or service in question, then it'd be legally allowed. This would include services like OnStar and such.
The way "ongoing expense" is interpreted is going to be key here, assuming the bill makes it into law. This, obviously, is not guaranteed. In theory, a car company could claim that over-the-air updates and their associated data costs constitute an ongoing expense. That means anything to do with connected features could theoretically be charged for. Since a car needs an internet connection in order to purchase subscriptions, well, that might make this particular piece of legislation worthless. On the other hand, if the core value of the subscription is derived from the pre-installed hardware as opposed to the data connection itself, then there is probably a case to be made.
Besides heated seats, the bill also mentions "driver assistance." That could be a problem for systems like Tesla's autopilot or General Motors' Super Cruise, both of which are going to a subscription model. Both of these systems cost money to maintain, though, especially Super Cruise. The system requires enabled highways to be scanned with Lidar. Tesla's AutoPilot and "Full Self-Driving" are also actively updated and maintained, which costs money.
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bucolic_frolic
Oct 2022
#1
I don't really understand this, but I just want to say I'm puzzled by the sentence,
Croney
Oct 2022
#2
Wonder how much gas is wasted and pollution generated by cars running incessantly in driveways?
MichMan
Oct 2022
#3
I totally agree. My husband is always reminding me not to start the car too soon.
Croney
Oct 2022
#6
Need to ban remote start and ticketing people leaving their car running unoccupied
MichMan
Oct 2022
#8
In some commercial instances, yes; ticket trucks for running unoccupied for a long time.
Croney
Oct 2022
#9
I dont think burning fossil fuels and creating tailpipe emissions for convenience is good.
MichMan
Oct 2022
#10