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In reply to the discussion: Congress has the power to block Trump from taking office, but lawmakers must act now [View all]OKIsItJustMe
(21,031 posts)13. Disqualified: The case for Donald Trump's disqualification under the 14th Amendment
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January 6th was an insurrection against the Constitution
Ample evidence and authoritative sources establish that the January 6th attack on the Capitol and surrounding events constituted an insurrection against the Constitution of the United States.
Case law from the Civil War era recognized that the existence of the rebellion [was] a matter of public notoriety, supported by public documents such as proclamations of the president and acts of congress.⁶⁹ Similarly, the existence of the January 6th insurrection is a matter of public notoriety supported by bipartisan acts of Congress, congressional reports, presidential statements, judicial decisions, and other public documents.
All three branches of the federal government have referred to the January 6th attack as an insurrection. Just days after the attack, a bipartisan majority of the House of Representatives voted to impeach Trump for incitement of insurrection.⁷⁰ And after a trial in the Senate, a bipartisan majority of senators found Trump guilty of the same, though it fell short of the two-thirds supermajority threshold for conviction.⁷¹ Congress has also passed bipartisan bills honoring law enforcement officers who defended the Capitol that refer to the January 6th attackers as insurrectionists.⁷²
President Biden the current Chief Executive of the United States has referred repeatedly to January 6th as an insurrection.⁷³ The Department of Justice (DOJ) under Trumps administration characterized January 6th as an insurrection in court filings.⁷⁴ Since then, the DOJ has also brought charges and secured convictions of key players in the attack for seditious conspiracy, a charge that closely tracks the definition of insurrection.⁷⁵ President Trumps own impeachment lawyers stated that everyone agrees that there was a violent insurrection of the Capitol on January 6th and referred to the attackers as insurrectionists.⁷⁶
68 Barrett, 63 N.C. at 204.
69 United States v. Greathouse, 26 F. Cas. 18, 22 (C.C.N.D. Cal. 1863). This report is not intended to provide a complete legal analysis on the meaning of the term insurrection.
70 See H.R. Res. 24, 117th Cong. (2021) (impeaching Donald Trump for incitement of insurrection).
71 Barbara Sprunt, 7 GOP Senators Voted to Convict Trump. Only 1 Faces Voters Next Year, NPR (Feb. 15, 2021), https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/15/967878039/7-gop-senators-voted-to-convict-trump-only-1-faces-voters-next-year.
72 See Act of Aug. 5, 2021, Pub. L. No. 117-32 (2021); S. Con. Res. 14, 117th Cong. (2021); S. 35, 117th Cong. (2021).
73 See, e.g., President Joe Biden, Statement By President Joe Biden On the Six-month Anniversary of the January 6th Insurrection On the Capitol (July 6, 2021), https://perma.cc/VS89-CC3B; Letter from Dana A. Remus, Counsel to the President, to David Ferriero, Archivist of the United States (Oct. 8, 2021), https://perma.cc/SND5-58EX; President Joe Biden, Remarks by President Biden at Signing of H.R. 3325, Awarding Congressional Gold Medals To Those Who Protected the U.S. Capitol On January 6, 2021 WL 3418358; President Joe Biden, Remarks By President Biden On Protecting the Sacred, Constitutional Right To Vote, 2021 WL 2935591.
74 United States v. Chansley, No. 21-cr-00003, ECF No. 5 (D. Ariz. filed Jan. 14, 2021), https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs2191/f/Jacob%20Chansley%20Detention%20Memo.pdf.
75 U.S. v. Rhodes, et al., 1:22-cr-00015-APM, Superseding Indictment at 14-32 (D.D.C. June 22, 2022), https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1514906/download; see also Four Oath Keepers Found Guilty of Seditious Conspiracy Related to U.S. Capitol Breach, Dept of Just. (Jan. 23, 2023), https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/four-oath-keepers-found-guilty-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach; Jury Convicts Four Leaders of the Proud Boys of Seditious Conspiracy Related to U.S. Capitol Breach, U.S. Attorneys Office for the Dist. of Columbia (May 4, 2023), https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/jury-convicts-four-leaders-proud-boys-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach.
From the Wayback Machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20211109152320/https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs2191/f/Jacob%20Chansley%20Detention%20Memo.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1514906/download
https://web.archive.org/web/20241228153729/https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/four-oath-keepers-found-guilty-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach
January 6th was an insurrection against the Constitution
Ample evidence and authoritative sources establish that the January 6th attack on the Capitol and surrounding events constituted an insurrection against the Constitution of the United States.
Case law from the Civil War era recognized that the existence of the rebellion [was] a matter of public notoriety, supported by public documents such as proclamations of the president and acts of congress.⁶⁹ Similarly, the existence of the January 6th insurrection is a matter of public notoriety supported by bipartisan acts of Congress, congressional reports, presidential statements, judicial decisions, and other public documents.
All three branches of the federal government have referred to the January 6th attack as an insurrection. Just days after the attack, a bipartisan majority of the House of Representatives voted to impeach Trump for incitement of insurrection.⁷⁰ And after a trial in the Senate, a bipartisan majority of senators found Trump guilty of the same, though it fell short of the two-thirds supermajority threshold for conviction.⁷¹ Congress has also passed bipartisan bills honoring law enforcement officers who defended the Capitol that refer to the January 6th attackers as insurrectionists.⁷²
President Biden the current Chief Executive of the United States has referred repeatedly to January 6th as an insurrection.⁷³ The Department of Justice (DOJ) under Trumps administration characterized January 6th as an insurrection in court filings.⁷⁴ Since then, the DOJ has also brought charges and secured convictions of key players in the attack for seditious conspiracy, a charge that closely tracks the definition of insurrection.⁷⁵ President Trumps own impeachment lawyers stated that everyone agrees that there was a violent insurrection of the Capitol on January 6th and referred to the attackers as insurrectionists.⁷⁶
68 Barrett, 63 N.C. at 204.
69 United States v. Greathouse, 26 F. Cas. 18, 22 (C.C.N.D. Cal. 1863). This report is not intended to provide a complete legal analysis on the meaning of the term insurrection.
70 See H.R. Res. 24, 117th Cong. (2021) (impeaching Donald Trump for incitement of insurrection).
71 Barbara Sprunt, 7 GOP Senators Voted to Convict Trump. Only 1 Faces Voters Next Year, NPR (Feb. 15, 2021), https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/15/967878039/7-gop-senators-voted-to-convict-trump-only-1-faces-voters-next-year.
72 See Act of Aug. 5, 2021, Pub. L. No. 117-32 (2021); S. Con. Res. 14, 117th Cong. (2021); S. 35, 117th Cong. (2021).
73 See, e.g., President Joe Biden, Statement By President Joe Biden On the Six-month Anniversary of the January 6th Insurrection On the Capitol (July 6, 2021), https://perma.cc/VS89-CC3B; Letter from Dana A. Remus, Counsel to the President, to David Ferriero, Archivist of the United States (Oct. 8, 2021), https://perma.cc/SND5-58EX; President Joe Biden, Remarks by President Biden at Signing of H.R. 3325, Awarding Congressional Gold Medals To Those Who Protected the U.S. Capitol On January 6, 2021 WL 3418358; President Joe Biden, Remarks By President Biden On Protecting the Sacred, Constitutional Right To Vote, 2021 WL 2935591.
74 United States v. Chansley, No. 21-cr-00003, ECF No. 5 (D. Ariz. filed Jan. 14, 2021), https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs2191/f/Jacob%20Chansley%20Detention%20Memo.pdf.
75 U.S. v. Rhodes, et al., 1:22-cr-00015-APM, Superseding Indictment at 14-32 (D.D.C. June 22, 2022), https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1514906/download; see also Four Oath Keepers Found Guilty of Seditious Conspiracy Related to U.S. Capitol Breach, Dept of Just. (Jan. 23, 2023), https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/four-oath-keepers-found-guilty-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach; Jury Convicts Four Leaders of the Proud Boys of Seditious Conspiracy Related to U.S. Capitol Breach, U.S. Attorneys Office for the Dist. of Columbia (May 4, 2023), https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/jury-convicts-four-leaders-proud-boys-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach.
From the Wayback Machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20211109152320/https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs2191/f/Jacob%20Chansley%20Detention%20Memo.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1514906/download
https://web.archive.org/web/20241228153729/https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/four-oath-keepers-found-guilty-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach
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Congress has the power to block Trump from taking office, but lawmakers must act now [View all]
mahatmakanejeeves
Dec 26
OP
No chance. The POS won the election. Unfortunately, democracy doesn't guarantee the best candidates will win.
Silent Type
Dec 26
#2
According to the 14th amendment, it requires a ⅔'s majority of both houses to allow him to serve
OKIsItJustMe
Dec 28
#7
How else would one determine if a person is disqualified from holding office under the 14th?
Fiendish Thingy
Dec 28
#14
Disqualified: The case for Donald Trump's disqualification under the 14th Amendment
OKIsItJustMe
Dec 28
#13
In January of 2021 a bipartisan majority of the House impeached Donald Trump on the grounds that he led an insurrection
OKIsItJustMe
Dec 29
#19
The opinion of one person on the internet does not equate to the Rule Of Law.
Fiendish Thingy
Dec 29
#21