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12. You are correct. The GPO IS a problem because survivor/spousal benefits are dependent benefits,

Sun Dec 15, 2024, 11:38 AM

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not earned worker benefits. It has to do with the dual entitlement rule. The two provisions of WEP and GPO are completely separate and passed during two different administrations. The GPO was enacted as a way to equalize benefits for dependents who had no work history or spotty work history and those who didn't pay into the system and have generous pensions from working 25, 30, or more years. The latter could potentially get a six-figure income with both SS survivor/spousal benefits and their non-SS pensions. It is nothing to find retired clerical workers in states like Nevada getting 50, 60, or 70 thousand-a-year pensions. That is a real problem. However, since GPO is part of the repeal, I am not going to raise a giant stink about it. Any inequities will have to be fixed down the road.

The WEP is outright theft of EARNED benefits.

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Social Security Fairness Act takes big step towards passage [View all] Dulcinea Dec 15 OP

Please correct me if I'm wrong... Think. Again. Dec 15 #1

I think these are people who did pay into social security MacKasey Dec 15 #2

I see, so they HAVE PAID into the SS system... Think. Again. Dec 15 #4

You are correct. The GPO IS a problem because survivor/spousal benefits are dependent benefits, valleyrogue Dec 15 #12

"An inequities will have to be fixed down the road." MichMan Dec 15 #14

I agree, it doesn't seem that 2 very different issues should be addressed by one act.. Think. Again. Dec 15 #19

Thank you, I think I understand that... Think. Again. Dec 15 #18

Why should I have to pay tax on 85% of my SS, that is tax on a tax. doc03 Dec 15 #3

Worse, why is the threshold for that tax fixed at a 1984 dollar value? Voltaire2 Dec 15 #7

That is the first time I ever saw just how many people it doc03 Dec 15 #9

Ronald Reagan signed it into law in 1983 MacKasey Dec 15 #16

Tip O'Neil proudly worked with Reagan on the bipartisan 'reform' bill. nt. Voltaire2 Dec 15 #17

SS isn't going "'broke." That is a fiction. WEP is earned benefits stolen from those who paid in. valleyrogue Dec 15 #13

No one should be exempted from paying into SS MichMan Dec 15 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author doc03 Dec 15 #11

Confused XanaDUer2 Dec 15 #6

From my understanding it will cost the SS system quite a bit of $$$. MichMan Dec 15 #8

I hope it happens. No, SS isn't going "insolvent." That is a rightwing lie since there is an valleyrogue Dec 15 #10

It's going insolvent. Igel Dec 15 #15