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hlthe2b

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17. You clearly have no understanding of the conduct of studies statistical power which means sample size for all subgroups
Sun May 18, 2025, 12:05 PM
May 18

and the entire often years-long process for enrollment, screening, evaluation, analysis, exclusion, recruitment and final analysis process.

But MORE TO THE POINT:
NO. It is both NECESSARY and MANDATORY for NEW drugs, NEW vaccines, NEW procedures, NEW medical devices to be evaluated when used in or on humans against a placebo control. That is NOT AT ARGUMENT.

What is INVALID and UNETHICAL is to give some individuals a placebo when there is an ESTABLISHED APPROVED Drug or vaccine against which to compare the new or modified one. To do so puts that individual at unwarranted risk since there is treatment or vaccine or instrument or procedure that has been established to prevent harm to that individual. If you cannot understand that very BASIC principle of medical ethics, then I don't know what to say to you. Consider how YOU would feel if a loved one died of a preventable disease for which they COULD have been offered the existing (prior fully studied, shown to be effective, and approved) vaccine, but were, instead, given a placebo--even if that loved one had agreed to participate in a clinical trial. Consider doing some reading and further education.

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Bizarre. It's the Pfizer & Moderna vaccines maga hates because they are MRNA Bernardo de La Paz May 18 #1
I am hesitant to take any vaccine today with RFK Jr. running things. nt doc03 May 18 #2
Good heavens. He isn't involved in producing the vaccines, but rather the companies' retain control hlthe2b May 18 #3
The FDA issued approval, with RFK Jr can we trust the FDA. I don't know if we can doc03 May 18 #5
doc03, NOWHERE did I say we should trust RFK Jr. You have totally misunderstood my post.. hlthe2b May 18 #6
Remember that this vaccine was being developed starting WAY back during the beginning of the pandemic BumRushDaShow May 18 #8
Why's it taken so long? There must be a reason. The delay make me skeptical. live love laugh May 18 #9
Well look what happened with J&J and Astrazeneca! BumRushDaShow May 18 #10
Yes... Posters should remember there was ALREADY a mRNA vaccine produced in response to SARS.... hlthe2b May 18 #12
Brainworm host has zero idea of what REALLY goes on with the vaccine processs BumRushDaShow May 18 #13
it may be unethical, but given the abundant # of people not taking the shot a placebo is hardly impractical cadoman May 18 #15
You clearly have no understanding of the conduct of studies statistical power which means sample size for all subgroups hlthe2b May 18 #17
iow mopinko May 18 #4
Well the ring hadn't been fitted yet BumRushDaShow May 18 #11
will they ever learn? mopinko May 18 #14
Since Fauci was involved with Moderna BumRushDaShow May 18 #16
I am happy with Novavax IbogaProject May 18 #7
I wonder what they will do if it mutates and starts killing mostly younger people Meowmee May 18 #18
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