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33. So now it's time for Trump to enact the plan Kellogg laid out in numerous interviews before he took office

Reply to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Mar 13, 2025, 08:09 PM

Mar 13

The idea was carrot and stick to force the two parties to negotiate.

We've had the stick for Ukraine, the (temporary) withdrawal of intelligence and suspension of arms deliveries - OK, they hardly needed dragging to the conference table anyway, but they saw the charade through - now it's time for the stick for Russia.

In the absence of any further meaningful sanctions that are likely to have any effect on them - and they've already been defiant and disrespected Trump by pooh-poohing their impact - that can only mean escalating arms supplies to Ukraine.

Go to it, Donny-boy. That Nobel Prize can be yours yet.

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Russia says it does not want a temporary ceasefire in Ukraine [View all] LetMyPeopleVote Mar 13 OP

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These terms are untenable angrychair Mar 13 #13

Of course they are... WinstonSmith4740 Mar 13 #25

Putin already has the US. Irish_Dem Mar 13 #26

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I'm encouraged that they are at least talking about peace hueymahl Mar 13 #7

He can't wait to take Moldova...... wolfie001 Mar 13 #9

Respectfully, that is a simplistic take hueymahl Mar 13 #15

Exactly how is it unique? Tommy Carcetti Mar 14 #40

For similar reasons. Transnistria is a breakaway province loyal to Russia IronLionZion Mar 13 #20

Really? Putin is a Murderous Bully. The Ukrainians sure darn Care that He Invaded their Country, and Stole their land... electric_blue68 Mar 13 #23

Ukraine and Russia have a complicated history. yellowdogintexas Mar 13 #29

Ty. Yeah, I know about the Holodomor.... electric_blue68 Mar 13 #35

I watch for books about it now that I have learned just this much. nt yellowdogintexas Mar 16 #42

My grandparents my dad's side left some years before that happened electric_blue68 Mar 16 #43

Russia Signed Off On The Borders DallasNE Mar 14 #36

I think who started the war is pretty fucking important, no? Tommy Carcetti Mar 14 #39

So just capitulate to Putin? BlueTsunami2018 Mar 14 #41

Conditions Are Not Ripe For A Peace Agreement DallasNE Mar 13 #8

Both Moscow and St. Petersburg need to be targeted regularly wolfie001 Mar 13 #10

If the YouTube vids are even half true BidenRocks Mar 13 #34

How about Russia abiding by a treat they signed with Ukraine in 1990's. republianmushroom Mar 13 #11

Well that was a gimmie.................... turbinetree Mar 13 #12

LOL Nasruddin Mar 13 #14

Putin likely doesn't want Traitor47 to get the credit if the war ends. pandr32 Mar 13 #17

Putin will not agree to ceasefire LetMyPeopleVote Mar 13 #16

"Trump says he can end the war in one day " LudwigPastorius Mar 13 #18

Gee i thought trumpy Figarosmom Mar 13 #19

TOLD YA. If Ukraine survives this war somehow, it would domestically destroy the Putin-regime in Russia. DetlefK Mar 13 #21

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Ukraine's best and final offer should be: GTFO NOW and then pay us to rebuild our country. OMGWTF Mar 13 #24

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Sky News calls Putin out for his Ceasefire scam. LetMyPeopleVote Mar 13 #28

Then turn Moscow to rubble. Fuck Putin. Evolve Dammit Mar 13 #30

Least surprising news of the day BrianTheEVGuy Mar 13 #31

Well then, blue-wave Mar 13 #32

So now it's time for Trump to enact the plan Kellogg laid out in numerous interviews before he took office Emrys Mar 13 #33

Attn: Vlad Botany Mar 14 #37

Shocking. Tommy Carcetti Mar 14 #38

Sounds like business negotiator extraordinaire brought nothing to Ukraine's side GoodRaisin Mar 17 #44