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In reply to the discussion: Biden administration adds exemptions into new climate rules for hydrogen energy [View all]Miguelito Loveless
(5,303 posts)51. To me, marine and flight uses
        are the major possibilities for H2. Also smelting steel.
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                        Biden administration adds exemptions into new climate rules for hydrogen energy [View all]
							BumRushDaShow
							Jan 2025
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        By virtue of the second law of thermodyamics, hydrogen is an extremely dirty fuel.
        NNadir
        Jan 2025
        #1
      
        
        Yes, we need to make some very big progress building out non-CO2 emitting electrical production.
        Think. Again.
        Jan 2025
        #10
      
        
        His background is in chemistry. He's in the pharmaceutical industry.  His journal is worth a scroll
        nmmi
        Jan 2025
        #14
      
        
        And hydrogen leaks twice as much as methane, by it's very nature as the smallest element
        NickB79
        Jan 2025
        #17
      
        
        And then fuel cells lose about 40%-60% of the 34kWH in the H2 converting it into electricity? /nt
        nmmi
        Jan 2025
        #18
      
        
        Which is still less than the energy lost by our current long distance delivery systems...
        Think. Again.
        Jan 2025
        #23
      
        
        59% is losses in the power plant itself in converting the fuel's energy to electricity at the power plant and net of
        nmmi
        Jan 2025
        #24
      
        
        Correct, I personally believe only a Green H2 economy is worthy of pursuing....
        Think. Again.
        Jan 2025
        #37
      
        
        Yes, and other uses where easily transportable fuel for combustion or on-site electric generation is needed.
        Think. Again.
        Jan 2025
        #54
      
        
        Yes, no one is suggesting H2 should replace batteries, or any other form of energy storage.
        Think. Again.
        Jan 2025
        #33
      
        
        Yes, and in situations where batteries are not viable due to weight or volume or non-existent power grid lines...
        Think. Again.
        Jan 2025
        #43
      
        
        Hydrogen containment tanks are made of materials that are impervious to embrittlement....
        Think. Again.
        Jan 2025
        #32
      
        
        Yes, they can be. And older existing lines can even be coated to be impervious.
        Think. Again.
        Jan 2025
        #42
      
        
        Yes, but Lithium is not infinite nor renewable, while Hydrogen basically is....
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        Jan 2025
        #30
      
        
        The Hydrogen economy infrastructure would be a cost of doing business....
        Think. Again.
        Jan 2025
        #52
      
  