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In reply to the discussion: Biden administration adds exemptions into new climate rules for hydrogen energy [View all]Miguelito Loveless
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Batteries are more efficient in personal transport and farm equipment, than any H2 fuel cell. Also easier to re-fuel and maintain. Claims have been made about trains and heavy trucking, but so far maintenance costs have made them far more expensive than their battery counterparts.
Combusting H2 means all of the headaches of ICE engines, greater inefficiency than fuel cells/batteries, plus lots of brand new infrastructure costs.
Steel smelting is a definite yes.
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Biden administration adds exemptions into new climate rules for hydrogen energy [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Jan 2025
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By virtue of the second law of thermodyamics, hydrogen is an extremely dirty fuel.
NNadir
Jan 2025
#1
Yes, we need to make some very big progress building out non-CO2 emitting electrical production.
Think. Again.
Jan 2025
#10
His background is in chemistry. He's in the pharmaceutical industry. His journal is worth a scroll
nmmi
Jan 2025
#14
And hydrogen leaks twice as much as methane, by it's very nature as the smallest element
NickB79
Jan 2025
#17
And then fuel cells lose about 40%-60% of the 34kWH in the H2 converting it into electricity? /nt
nmmi
Jan 2025
#18
Which is still less than the energy lost by our current long distance delivery systems...
Think. Again.
Jan 2025
#23
59% is losses in the power plant itself in converting the fuel's energy to electricity at the power plant and net of
nmmi
Jan 2025
#24
Correct, I personally believe only a Green H2 economy is worthy of pursuing....
Think. Again.
Jan 2025
#37
Yes, and other uses where easily transportable fuel for combustion or on-site electric generation is needed.
Think. Again.
Jan 2025
#54
Yes, no one is suggesting H2 should replace batteries, or any other form of energy storage.
Think. Again.
Jan 2025
#33
Yes, and in situations where batteries are not viable due to weight or volume or non-existent power grid lines...
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Jan 2025
#43
Hydrogen containment tanks are made of materials that are impervious to embrittlement....
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Jan 2025
#32
Yes, they can be. And older existing lines can even be coated to be impervious.
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Jan 2025
#42
Yes, but Lithium is not infinite nor renewable, while Hydrogen basically is....
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Jan 2025
#30
The Hydrogen economy infrastructure would be a cost of doing business....
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Jan 2025
#52