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Miguelito Loveless

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28. It must be stored either in liquid form
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 10:58 PM
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Or as a gas, both have energy and structural challenges. Also, hydrogen embrittlement means high maintenance costs, or serious safety issues if maintenance is skimped on. Right now I can power/heat/cooled my house safely, plus fuel my cars at home. Using H2 would add huge expense and inconvenience, and be more dangerous than methane.

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By virtue of the second law of thermodyamics, hydrogen is an extremely dirty fuel. NNadir Friday #1
It's also the most abundent element of the universe BumRushDaShow Friday #2
Yes, but on earth it is chemically bound. Looking at it... NNadir Friday #3
Hydrogen is not a "form of energy", it is an energy storage medium... Think. Again. Friday #5
Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe GoreWon2000 Friday #8
Yes, we need to make some very big progress building out non-CO2 emitting electrical production. Think. Again. Friday #10
Well... BumRushDaShow Friday #6
Post removed Post removed Friday #9
His background is in chemistry. He's in the pharmaceutical industry. His journal is worth a scroll nmmi Friday #14
As explained in the article... Think. Again. Friday #4
Except when it leaks NickB79 Friday #11
Natural gas leaks are 28X as powerful as CO2.... Think. Again. Friday #12
And hydrogen leaks twice as much as methane, by it's very nature as the smallest element NickB79 Saturday #17
A small mistake you made... Think. Again. Saturday #19
Green hydrogen is the future GoreWon2000 Friday #7
When will the scam that is the "hydrogen economy" Miguelito Loveless Friday #13
If you're Anti-Hydrogen, whatever you do - DO NOT LOOK AT CHINA or India Caribbeans Saturday #15
Simple math Miguelito Loveless Saturday #16
And then fuel cells lose about 40%-60% of the 34kWH in the H2 converting it into electricity? /nt nmmi Saturday #18
Which is still less than the energy lost by our current long distance delivery systems... Think. Again. Saturday #23
59% is losses in the power plant itself in converting the fuel's energy to electricity at the power plant and net of nmmi Saturday #24
Yes, the Hydrogen would not replace batteries... Think. Again. Saturday #25
The problem is Miguelito Loveless Sunday #34
Correct, I personally believe only a Green H2 economy is worthy of pursuing.... Think. Again. Sunday #37
That doesn't alter the fact Miguelito Loveless Sunday #44
Correct, directly powering your home from solar makes the most sense... Think. Again. Sunday #45
To me, marine and flight uses Miguelito Loveless Yesterday #51
Yes, and other uses where easily transportable fuel for combustion or on-site electric generation is needed. Think. Again. Yesterday #54
The environmental impact for lithium-ion Miguelito Loveless Sunday #31
Yes, and H2 can be used when weight and volume are considerations... Think. Again. Sunday #40
So far, Miguelito Loveless Sunday #46
Yes, passenger vehicles are better for batteries... Think. Again. Yesterday #49
My losses are much lower Miguelito Loveless Sunday #29
Yes, no one is suggesting H2 should replace batteries, or any other form of energy storage. Think. Again. Sunday #33
But, in using H2 for power Miguelito Loveless Sunday #39
Yes, and in situations where batteries are not viable due to weight or volume or non-existent power grid lines... Think. Again. Sunday #43
By very expensive tanker trucks Miguelito Loveless Yesterday #50
It doesn't make much sense does it madville Saturday #20
A loss of energy also occurs when it is transferred into batteries... Think. Again. Saturday #22
It must be stored either in liquid form Miguelito Loveless Sunday #28
Hydrogen containment tanks are made of materials that are impervious to embrittlement.... Think. Again. Sunday #32
The tanks are Miguelito Loveless Sunday #36
Yes, they can be. And older existing lines can even be coated to be impervious. Think. Again. Sunday #42
That means digging up old lines and replacing them Miguelito Loveless Yesterday #48
No, if the cost is 2 million, that's what it is, not more. Think. Again. Yesterday #53
The issue is not flammability Miguelito Loveless Sunday #38
Precisely. Miguelito Loveless Sunday #27
Any transfer of energy results in a loss... Think. Again. Saturday #21
True, Miguelito Loveless Sunday #26
Yes, but Lithium is not infinite nor renewable, while Hydrogen basically is.... Think. Again. Sunday #30
Lithium can be recycled from batteries Miguelito Loveless Sunday #35
Yes, with additional energy costs. Think. Again. Sunday #41
The additional energy cost is far lower Miguelito Loveless Yesterday #47
The Hydrogen economy infrastructure would be a cost of doing business.... Think. Again. Yesterday #52
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