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433. Oh please, you are delivering the same old 'we must elect anyone who slaps a D after their name'

Thu Dec 4, 2014, 01:07 AM

Dec 2014

routine again. Tell the Dem Party Leadership to provide REAL DEMOCRATS, not right leaning, corporate impostors, which to our shame we DID vote for, over and over because 'the other guy is worse'.

You are not listening. We DID that, and we got a cabinet filled with Republicans in Defense especially AND National Security along with Corporate CEOs. Where are all the Progressive Dems we expected in key positions in this government?

It's too late to try that old fear tactic.

And you are wrong about voters staying home. Voters have gone LOCAL and in this last election they VOTED for Progressive Issues anywhere they appeared on ballots, across the country. They just saw no point in voting for people who are not going to represent them on those issues. But they WON so in communities across the country, people now have progressive legislation that they once hoped they could get from DC. DC is so far removed from ordinary people at this point, the people no longer trust them.

Those are facts and the Dem Party can listen finally and stop listening to think tanks, paid for by Wall St, start listening to the people and they will win.

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Why is DU's popularity waning? (Title edited, explanation within.) [View all] ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 OP

Discussionist? nt milwaukeelib33 Dec 2014 #1

+1 ..nt TeeYiYi Dec 2014 #164

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Why are the Y-Axis numbers greater at the bottom. ret5hd Dec 2014 #2

It's not greater. You just can't see the decimal point. <--- I was wrong here. See post #22 nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #3

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You're right. Something doesn't look right if you look at it as traffic volume. The graph is ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #22

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why not? nt ellenrr Dec 2014 #65

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Oh please, you are delivering the same old 'we must elect anyone who slaps a D after their name' sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #433

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Ignoring political reality? Generic Other Dec 2014 #302

It's worse than that, Steve, I'm afraid. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #396

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trolls and a general willingness to attack almost anything SoCalDem Dec 2014 #5

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Focus on "fight the right"? Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #436

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the chart shows positional rank ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2014 #52

Oh sakabatou Dec 2014 #173

The election is over. bravenak Dec 2014 #51

my thots too... jonno99 Dec 2014 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #314

I took a break in Aug/Sept too. bravenak Dec 2014 #325

Too much interest on maintaining the status quo centrist Democratic part of the Party? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #53

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^ This may also be a good indicator of why Democratic discussion is waning. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #96

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Really? kentuck Dec 2014 #55

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... SidDithers Dec 2014 #61

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This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Dec 2014 #98

I did not respond that way. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Dec 2014 #175

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+1 Predictable as the sunset, woo me with science Dec 2014 #230

++++ pa28 Dec 2014 #345

Competition? savalez Dec 2014 #59

Perhaps. I don't frequent those other sites so have no idea of their popularity vs. DU. Some other ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #63

I also wonder if savalez Dec 2014 #68

No data for sites ranked below 100,000. Discussionist.com is at 179,796 and delcining. Of course, ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #75

Interesting. savalez Dec 2014 #79

FYI, Huffpo and Freeper traffic is similar progressoid Dec 2014 #62

Oh WOW! I didn't think to compare it with those sites. Now I'm wondering if this is an ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #67

Sorry to jump in here but savalez Dec 2014 #72

Jump in wherever you want to, savalez. Glad to see you! I've been participating less myself in ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #81

Thanks! savalez Dec 2014 #95

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... woo me with science Dec 2014 #344

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^This blogslut Dec 2014 #87

Perhaps. It is used, however, (or maybe used to be?) by a lot of webmasters to ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #92

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Suddenly? Since August-ish? sibelian Dec 2014 #575

Party/Obama loyalists claim party/Obama critics are driving people off, m-lekktor Dec 2014 #73

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its in the name olddots Dec 2014 #90

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Wow, where did you see that? I was quite taken aback by the search keywords Alexa lists ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #109

It is towards the bottom of the Alexa page. gvstn Dec 2014 #124

Thanks. I hadn't scrolled down far enough to see that. =) nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #135

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That is not true. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #123

Right... LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #126

Have you ever served on mirt? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #127

I've seen the results. LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #128

I think you should serve a term and you will see what goes on. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #134

Could you please provide examples? cyberswede Dec 2014 #176

... Puglover Dec 2014 #191

Did you intend to reply to me? cyberswede Dec 2014 #196

Oops sorry. Puglover Dec 2014 #197

MIRT gets swapped out every few months. MADem Dec 2014 #412

Just a few points. Puglover Dec 2014 #478

There's no way I could link to examples of moderators "taking out" unpopular posters MADem Dec 2014 #506

I would absolutely agree this system is better Puglover Dec 2014 #513

I've seen some idiotic jury decisions as well. Not sure what to do about it. MADem Dec 2014 #514

2 inaccuracies in your post, or things you don't seem aware of. uppityperson Dec 2014 #518

Whoops on the "two" Puglover Dec 2014 #521

I saw you said the break should happen with the old mod system, just thought you might be interested uppityperson Dec 2014 #527

Post #134 LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #221

In the first MIRT term, someone banned a member in haste cyberswede Dec 2014 #226

So you cite multiple times the admins. have stepped in... LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #231

The percentage of reinstated members is tiny cyberswede Dec 2014 #234

So, according to your own words... LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #301

I never said those that were reinstated were egregiously bad (or even mildly bad) cyberswede Dec 2014 #313

Just bad enough for the admins. to reverse them. LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #316

Can I ask you what exactly is your concern about mirt? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #328

It's not just MIRT. LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #346

You must remember that mirt works by consensus. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #351

I disagree with those hides, and I disagree with a lot of your stated positions. uppityperson Dec 2014 #523

"fewer than a couple dozen reinstated" is now "dozens egregiously badly banned"? uppityperson Dec 2014 #522

I can remember three times in 4 terms, hrmjustin Dec 2014 #264

Thanks Justin - I didn't want to underestimate, so that's why I thought maybe a couple dozen total cyberswede Dec 2014 #321

I banned one in error and had them reinstated when it became obvious. They came in on a death threa uppityperson Dec 2014 #524

Simple. Volunteer to be on MIRT a term and you can see what it is like, what happens. uppityperson Dec 2014 #519

what is MIRT? nt ellenrr Dec 2014 #132

A group of DUers tasked with removing trolls. LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #137

No it isn't cyberswede Dec 2014 #171

So, pretty much exactly what I said. LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #216

Yes cyberswede Dec 2014 #223

No it isn't. zappaman Dec 2014 #210

Malicious Intruder Response Team LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #217

So you think you know more than the people that actually have served on the MIRT? Rex Dec 2014 #251

Mayhaps there is another motive at play cyberswede Dec 2014 #322

Silly...if one serves on MIRT, one can no longer make unfounded implications about MIRT motives cyberswede Dec 2014 #229

But don't you know? Speculating is the same as serving! Rex Dec 2014 #253

Here is a link about it. The new sign up for volunteers will be Jan, in Announcements forum uppityperson Dec 2014 #526

The high profile posters who have most recently left... lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #145

Do you have examples to support this claim? cyberswede Dec 2014 #200

Old history. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #290

There was one person who resigned from MIRT, but I don't have the details why cyberswede Dec 2014 #300

It's unproductive to go into the issue any deeper. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #315

I wasn't "outrage"... cyberswede Dec 2014 #320

We kicked things up because we wanted the admins to see it. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #355

Results of your jury service DeadLetterOffice Dec 2014 #323

I get mail. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #339

Oye. Agschmid Dec 2014 #462

I'm tired of this maufactured grudge of yours. BainsBane Dec 2014 #335

You were a great Mirt member and you did nothing wrong. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #353

I remember that thread. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #561

Since you raised the issue BainsBane Dec 2014 #563

I never asked for anything to be exempt from comment. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #564

I don't think that's true. I support the Citizens United decision as well as the Keystone pipeline, Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #213

That is because of your wisdom and gravitas, Nye. LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #233

Wow, 4 out of those 5 are extremely harsh hides, Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #235

I only see 2 legit hides. The rest are juries policing a member for having the wrong opinion LittleBlue Dec 2014 #272

Dream on. Rex Dec 2014 #255

Yeah, I've spent 10 years on here just hoping the site would die. LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #282

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #298

Back so soon? arcane1 Dec 2014 #299

"Dissent" A HERETIC I AM Dec 2014 #341

DAMMIT!!!! LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #348

Reeding and Fluting; A HERETIC I AM Dec 2014 #349

+1000 hardcover Dec 2014 #541

I have served on MIRT a couple TBF Dec 2014 #118

Daily Kos is quite ahead in rankings LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #131

Eye of the beholder. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #228

Overall Daily Kos is becoming much more liberal in nature than DU is lately. madfloridian Dec 2014 #252

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What does this mean for DU? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #143

It probably means that the "underground" part of it's name is no longer appropriate. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #148

Sites always evolve but there is strong debate here on our 2016 candidates but it does get hrmjustin Dec 2014 #152

I don't know if you remember, but this site used to be scholastic. I mean to tell you there were ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #156

Yes it is much more bickering than the beginning. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #158

i discovered du when my brain exploded after bush stole the second term xiamiam Dec 2014 #244

Well they won't be here much longer, IF they are telling the truth. Rex Dec 2014 #257

Free Republic has basically the same chart. B Calm Dec 2014 #147

Yes, as has been mentioned above. HuffPost too. Why do you suppose the waning ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #151

"moderates get attacked here a lot and it gets pretty tiresome." "echo chamber for corporate shill pampango Dec 2014 #150

it's a site for group-think - diverge from that and be met with venom DrDan Dec 2014 #153

Agree. I recently saw someone say another regular poster BainsBane Dec 2014 #161

Because the site's demographics-and thus, perspectives-do not reflect the Democratic Party base YoungDemCA Dec 2014 #155

Spot on. nt BainsBane Dec 2014 #162

I'd like to know where those who are tired of misogyny, racism & sexism go- appalachiablue Dec 2014 #288

Google the terms "white men" or "white male" as used on DU. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #297

..... YoungDemCA Dec 2014 #557

Because of you. randome Dec 2014 #160

Because saying nothing more than Third Way, DLC, authoritarian tool of the MIC and/or the 1 puh-cent BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #168

+1 YoungDemCA Dec 2014 #169

+2 Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #227

Oh yeah.. really big on the meaningless personal attacks.. it's so "radical" Cha Dec 2014 #249

+3 Hekate Dec 2014 #334

Yeah, it's quite a tiresome echo chamber. joshcryer Dec 2014 #429

Could not have nailed what passes for "discussion" in this place any harder. Good gracious Number23 Dec 2014 #471

High tolernce for racists, but low tolerance for liberals Scootaloo Dec 2014 #170

My son and nieces and nephews are millennials.. Peacetrain Dec 2014 #174

I remember there being less carping. I remember substantive responses that included as much ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #180

Because it's now Putin underground. iandhr Dec 2014 #177

+1 yep uhnope Dec 2014 #280

Maybe it was because the midterm elections did not produce candidates that many people Baitball Blogger Dec 2014 #181

Considering the similar waning of interest at Kos and Huff, it may really be this simple. Thanks for ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #183

DU doesn't juice page views with slideshows? herding cats Dec 2014 #185

Two words: MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #188

I totally agree. laundry_queen Dec 2014 #444

alert on a personal attack, and multiple jurors personally attack you carolinayellowdog Dec 2014 #468

It will probably pickup again under the Republican President in 2016... Historic NY Dec 2014 #189

How does a republican win a national election without stealing it? NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #577

Toxic orthodoxy enforcement policed by juries LittleBlue Dec 2014 #194

Well I admit I post less mvd Dec 2014 #198

Because drinking in the middle of the day shenmue Dec 2014 #203

Part may be the lack of participation from admin. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #212

All the GOP paid sockpuppets had to go run campaigns. applegrove Dec 2014 #214

I don't come much now because of the infighting and lack of respect among members. nolabear Dec 2014 #220

You have a different opinion and your get called a troll Republican Ohio4theWin Dec 2014 #236

After reading this thread, the reasons are right in front of you. Rex Dec 2014 #237

A word about Alexa wyldwolf Dec 2014 #238

For me, we have been well conditioned to have no expectations seabeyond Dec 2014 #239

Success by wingnut trolls Turbineguy Dec 2014 #245

I left this place in_cog_ni_to Dec 2014 #247

Hi, backatcha SoCalDem Dec 2014 #363

The election happened Kurska Dec 2014 #248

Except it didn't happen in 2010. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #265

Ponies Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2014 #254

Too much copying/pasting from Twitter and Facebook... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #262

While that's certainly part of the problem, kentauros Dec 2014 #501

Alexa changed the way they do rankings Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #266

Actually, that's not true. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #317

Ouch.~~~ Nice to see you, Nance. Hekate Dec 2014 #336

I've been migrating to Live Leaks nilesobek Dec 2014 #275

DU is important in the media atmosphere that we have today... TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #283

The abuse of the jury sustem, people can't handle anyone that disagrees doc03 Dec 2014 #284

+1 LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #305

+++ LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #312

Or, when a person has a legitimate grievance against a post that was actually offensive..... AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #399

"smart phones" olddots Dec 2014 #295

People speaking rudely to each other Ricochet21 Dec 2014 #296

Some people are saying it's liberals fault. Some are saying it's the moderates. DemocraticWing Dec 2014 #307

Yes, but it's more than that, too. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #385

And some people perpetuate false narratives on purpose. R B Garr Dec 2014 #416

. cyberswede Dec 2014 #421

+1 XemaSab Dec 2014 #535

Lack of representation by Parties. Same thing is happening with the Repubs. Lodestar Dec 2014 #309

Clear, succinct, woo me with science Dec 2014 #347

the LBN thread used to be a valuable resource. Now it's slow and lacking uhnope Dec 2014 #310

Well...an ex-Duer I know told me about this when it was happening and the reasons why. Neoma Dec 2014 #311

OMG. People actually take Alexa seriously? Recursion Dec 2014 #326

Alexa: Measuring which sites are popular with people dumb enough to install their toolbar since 1996 unrepentant progress Dec 2014 #330

Well, someone in this thread takes it quite seriously... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #380

To be honest, I'm surprised it has taken so long for it to wane. HuckleB Dec 2014 #332

I don't know. KamaAina Dec 2014 #333

Besides Post-Election Drop, It Likely Also Represents Site Promotion $$ Drop Tace Dec 2014 #337

Depression, Hopelessness, The Reaction Of The Beaten Down... WillyT Dec 2014 #356

There's probably a lot of factors involved here. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #359

TL;DR: Bitches better STFU XemaSab Dec 2014 #370

Right? cyberswede Dec 2014 #375

Maybe it's the racists, sexists and concern trolls? LeftyMom Dec 2014 #371

Uh-huh...... AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #382

You do realize that outside of the circle jerk of misognynists on reddit "social justice" LeftyMom Dec 2014 #387

You missed the point in so many ways, it's almost sad. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #395

You actually don't get to decide that issues unimportant to you* are unimportant or distractions. LeftyMom Dec 2014 #401

The irony truly abounds here. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #404

It's like rain on your wedding day XemaSab Dec 2014 #428

Radical feminists & "fringe SJ warriors" aren't the only people concerned with cyberswede Dec 2014 #403

I hate to say this, but way to completely miss the point I was making. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #407

So, being so honest joe, what are the radfem, AAsaying on du that is so fuggin out there? I have not seabeyond Dec 2014 #410

You know what I'm referring to. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #413

O.M.F.G. cyberswede Dec 2014 #419

You can't come up with any extreme just creating caricatures if women and blacks to vilify them and seabeyond Dec 2014 #423

And here you go again, making assumptions that have no shred of truth in them..... AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #442

You have not and can not come up with extremism cause it does not exist. You vilified women, blacks seabeyond Dec 2014 #446

Do you hear yourself talking? AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #451

Ah, you are amusing but for only so many posts. seabeyond Dec 2014 #455

It's time you considered that it's not that everybody's misinterpreting you, LeftyMom Dec 2014 #456

Case in point: XemaSab Dec 2014 #459

Wow, that's unbelievable. Good catch. R B Garr Dec 2014 #484

TAKE THE MONEY Starry Messenger Dec 2014 #438

That is the elephant in the room. LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #452

A simple glance at current GD thread titles will tell part of the story. Socal31 Dec 2014 #365

too many right wingers on du. PowerToThePeople Dec 2014 #373

to much bad grammar, to (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #388

i would take bad grammar over right wingers any day. PowerToThePeople Dec 2014 #390

This message was hidden by Jury decision helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #376

Cannot reply to hidden messages Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #492

The far right neo-con trolls masquerading as 'centrists', & pragmatists. grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #377

Bingo. n/t QC Dec 2014 #381

We have a few right wingers here but I don't see that many. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #383

you mean RW neocon Putin trolls masquerading as progressives uhnope Dec 2014 #384

Crikey, find another note. nt Union Scribe Dec 2014 #431

Putin is a right wing neo-con? Do tell! So Bush & Putin have the same agenda? grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #487

Well he hates lgbt people. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #489

That makes him a homophobe, not a neocon. grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #493

how would you describe a neo-con? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #494

Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice, those that subscribe to PNAC doctrines grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #495

Thanks for the link. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #496

Russian Oligarch. grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #512

Putin is a neocon in the Russia context--far right, throwback to previous regressive ways uhnope Dec 2014 #498

So, he's a Russian oligarch, as opposed to those here who would destabilize the Ukraine and then grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #511

You will have a choice in 2016. Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #464

Election night 2012 the site went to defcon 5 but on election night 2014 we went to defcon 1 only. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #391

I think it says 12 was a Presidential election, and 14 was a midterm. MADem Dec 2014 #415

Your point on Alexa is a good point. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #418

Alexa used to mean something eons ago--it's just a datapoint now, that examines a minority of people MADem Dec 2014 #439

So, all was well in 2012... PeteSelman Dec 2014 #472

Why is ALEXA becoming less relevant or accurate? MADem Dec 2014 #394

Cool. So everybody decided to uninstall their Alexa toolbars at the beginning of September... ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #505

No, the small subset of people with Alexa toolbars had something better to do. MADem Dec 2014 #507

Alert crews. I can't say where they are coming from or I'll get a hide ...but everyone knows. L0oniX Dec 2014 #417

I keep hearing about coordinated alert "crews" but have yet to see any evidence cyberswede Dec 2014 #420

Hmm Union Scribe Dec 2014 #430

LALALALA!! NO IT DOESN'T LALALALA!!! LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #457

So do you guys take notes? Agschmid Dec 2014 #467

I think we need a few more hints Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #482

Hmmmm..... QC Dec 2014 #504

There are some DU groups that make an effort to alert on any one who criticizes them. L0oniX Dec 2014 #458

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #424

This thread is a marvelous inkblot test. nt Union Scribe Dec 2014 #427

Yes it is.. Fumesucker Dec 2014 #474

Maybe people are just getting tired of forums in general. jambo101 Dec 2014 #434

After some of the responses on the Santa tuns away an autistic girl with pit bull liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #441

I came here protesting the Iraq War in 2003 & don't recognize this place. U4ikLefty Dec 2014 #443

This certainly doesn't seem to be a progressive website anymore. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #449

because of my pet peeves Enrique Dec 2014 #454

Simple . . too many racist trolls. Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #461

+1 MADem Dec 2014 #510

Damned good post! Andy823 Dec 2014 #558

Because the DLCers and Obama-Bots have driven away Progressive posters. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #476

Not enough kittehs. (nt) Inkfreak Dec 2014 #481

Why? Derek V Dec 2014 #483

New study: It's da NRA's fault. Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #485

Because it's an unpleasant place Prism Dec 2014 #486

Bravo! n/t QC Dec 2014 #502

Yeah, there's this feeling where... Blue_Adept Dec 2014 #531

PRISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sibelian Dec 2014 #572

You better believe it! zappaman Dec 2014 #491

as I recall a whole bunch of feminists left DU as a protest during the nerd wars librechik Dec 2014 #497

To summarize BainsBane Dec 2014 #503

Clearly, it's because of [insert pet peeve]! Orsino Dec 2014 #515

yes, but it's not because of YOUR pet peeve Enrique Dec 2014 #520

When shrub was pres, we had a common cause to fight against. uppityperson Dec 2014 #528

they throw off too many loyal Democrats who blackcrowflies Dec 2014 #532

Not that loyal if they give up so easily. randome Dec 2014 #548

what is it about the word blocked that you don't understand? blackcrowflies Dec 2014 #559

Because Caretha Dec 2014 #543

I don't come here too often anymore kjones Dec 2014 #545

Most people don't like being stalked and bullied. QC Dec 2014 #546

Wow, ya think? Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #551

it's simple: incestuous, self-absorbed, belly-button watching. just look. ellenrr Dec 2014 #547

Too much political correctness. PC Police are looking for something to complain about B Calm Dec 2014 #550

It's moving slowly to the right and... Hotler Dec 2014 #553

Dad's never home to watch the kids. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #555

Why? Mad-in-Mo Dec 2014 #556

I wish Admins had given more Attention to Groups, here on DU. KoKo Dec 2014 #560

I could tell you, but it would anger the alert-monkeys. flvegan Dec 2014 #562

Trying to have a discussion with someone on this site... sibelian Dec 2014 #578