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86. What does "moderate" even mean in this context?

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So I waited until the dust settled after the TN election to suggest this, but.... [View all] senseandsensibility Yesterday OP

Im pretty sure Boo1 Yesterday #1

Wow. senseandsensibility Yesterday #4

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #28

Agree and its the same with Tennessee aeromanKC Yesterday #2

I actually confused TN with KY in my OP at first senseandsensibility Yesterday #6

Everyone makes mistakes MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #42

Thanks senseandsensibility 23 hrs ago #50

It was Tennessee and she won a primary against 3 other Democrats Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #3

Fixed it senseandsensibility Yesterday #7

Good! n/t Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #8

Progressive Democrats should definetly run ... PBC_Democrat Yesterday #37

Gillum didn't lose because he was a progressive. carpetbagger 23 hrs ago #54

Aftyn Behn won 78.8% of the Nashville vote on Tuesday. Tanuki 23 hrs ago #59

I agree that Graham would have beaten DeathSantis LetMyPeopleVote 23 hrs ago #69

That narrative is what gets me in trouble with Democrats. gab13by13 Yesterday #5

I'm personally for the most liberal candidate in almost all situations senseandsensibility Yesterday #10

Give me one example where the DNC said gab13by13 Yesterday #16

I'm guessing that there are Bettie Yesterday #31

I don't really care what the DNC thinks senseandsensibility Yesterday #32

i saw them tank a progressive for a moderate. they lost. we got roscum. mopinko 23 hrs ago #65

I'm with you gab Docreed2003 23 hrs ago #48

I kind of doubt it. yardwork Yesterday #9

Yes, I agree that the more progressive senseandsensibility Yesterday #11

I think that's what we need. yardwork Yesterday #13

Agree 👍 anciano Yesterday #12

Wresting power from the Republican party Alsteen Yesterday #14

No n/t leftstreet Yesterday #15

You just said what I was trying to say. gab13by13 Yesterday #18

NO... 2naSalit Yesterday #17

So a candidate that ran a Bernie type campaign Emile Yesterday #19

My whole OP was a question senseandsensibility Yesterday #20

You should ask Jason Kanew n/t leftstreet Yesterday #21

Passive aggressives use questions to push a point. Bobstandard 23 hrs ago #62

So you're calling me passive aggressive without actually doing so? senseandsensibility 23 hrs ago #64

Thicker skin. Shorter fuse. Bobstandard 23 hrs ago #66

I think you answered your own question.... getagrip_already Yesterday #26

I'm sorry, but the only ones doing a purity test Emile Yesterday #30

how so? getagrip_already Yesterday #40

So the only ones that do purity tests are progressives. Emile 23 hrs ago #49

She won the primary. returnee Yesterday #34

that is very true, but a primary, especially in a special, is a very progressive race... getagrip_already Yesterday #38

Probably correct. It's hard to make predictions based upon a special election with significantly lower turnout Silent Type Yesterday #22

Probably not. It wasn't a winnable district Jose Garcia Yesterday #23

Good question: Aftyn Behn would have done better or won, Ars Longa Yesterday #24

I didn't hear about the country music thing until the day after the election senseandsensibility Yesterday #27

I love country music. returnee Yesterday #35

Old country was OK- Modern "Bro Country" sounds like has been Ars Longa Yesterday #43

Yes, give me Willie and Waylon and Johnny Cash and Dolly senseandsensibility 23 hrs ago #47

I go back to Appalachian folk ballads and fiddle tunes... returnee 21 hrs ago #72

Merle Haggard? Liberal? returnee 21 hrs ago #73

By "these days" I take it you mean the last quarter century? johnp3907 17 hrs ago #84

I really doubt it mvd Yesterday #25

Republican-lite always loses to a real Republican Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #29

Harry Truman Emile 23 hrs ago #63

Exactly correct Deminpenn 23 hrs ago #67

Seems a bit irrelevant... EarlG Yesterday #33

You nailed it MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #45

It's true that rehashing would have been could have been scenarios senseandsensibility 23 hrs ago #53

"...old markodochartaigh 23 hrs ago #57

Plenty of red state moderate incumbents have lost to MAGA Republicans over the years IronLionZion Yesterday #36

What are the actual examples of progressive winning in deep red states? RoeVWade Yesterday #39

Was the lack of voter turnout an issue? czarjak Yesterday #41

No. They said the same things about the moderate dem candidates here. 2 Meow Momma Yesterday #44

No...absolutely not Docreed2003 23 hrs ago #46

This +1 Emile 23 hrs ago #52

Her message was very mainstream. Bluetus 23 hrs ago #60

I never said that she was "too progressive" Docreed2003 22 hrs ago #71

My apologies. You are correct. I replied to the wrong post Bluetus 18 hrs ago #78

It didn't help that she was female. Beshear is liberal, but he is a white man and he wins everywhere in KY Wanderlust988 23 hrs ago #51

Sadly, I'm sure that was a factor. senseandsensibility 23 hrs ago #56

It was highly highly unlikely that we were going to win it ibegurpard 23 hrs ago #55

No. Nashville/Davidson County's rock solid Democratic congressional district Tanuki 23 hrs ago #58

Thanks senseandsensibility 23 hrs ago #61

The election in a deep red district, and the outcome, is scaring the hell out of the white supremacy Tr**plicans. NNadir 23 hrs ago #68

We've been running to the center for 45 years. Gore1FL 23 hrs ago #70

There have been many moderate southern Dems over the past few decades. Wanderlust988 18 hrs ago #74

Never heard of Jasmine Crockett? Emile 18 hrs ago #77

She's in a very Democratic district Wanderlust988 17 hrs ago #81

Used to be a very democratic district. Emile 17 hrs ago #82

I want what you are smoking. Even Jasmine knows this and will likely run for the Senate Wanderlust988 16 hrs ago #85

Keep your personal judgement against fellow duers, Emile 8 hrs ago #87

Maybe we should try; I remember similar arguments regarding what was possible in 2008. Gore1FL 17 hrs ago #83

Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock won in Georgia...but they are male Wanderlust988 18 hrs ago #75

No matter how 'moderate' the candidate is, the GQP will label them "socialist communist fascist radical left Jack Valentino 18 hrs ago #76

Done better perhaps, but not won Justice Brandeis 18 hrs ago #79

There are different meanings of "progressive" and "moderate". MervinFerd 18 hrs ago #80

What does "moderate" even mean in this context? Crunchy Frog 16 hrs ago #86