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In reply to the discussion: Panicked Curtis Yarvin--JD Vance guru--Plans to Flee USA (He sees the entire Trump experiment in fascism as failing) [View all]pat_k
(12,056 posts)24. Vance is guided not just by the insanity of Yarvin, but by Posobiec's dystopian vision of fascism saving the world.
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Unhumans, by Jack Posobiec and Joshua Lisec
Forward by Bannon,
Blurbed by J.D. Vance, Don Jr., and Tucker Carlson, among others.
Opinion
Michelle Goldberg
JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman
Aug. 5, 2024
Paywall free link to NYTimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Bk4.xGes.1_ONuyrQ-M2p&smid=url-share
. . .
Unhumans, an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co-wrote with the professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements from some of the most influential people in Republican politics, including, most significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD Vance.
As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation of an ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing through the French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write, great men of means are required to crush this scourge. The contempt for democracy in Unhumans is not subtle. Our study of history has brought us to this conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect innocents from the unhumans, write Posobiec and Lisec.
One of their books heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the countrys 1930s civil war. The authors call him a great man of history and compare him to George Washington. They quote him on what doesnt work against the unhuman threat: We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box.
Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that led the Jan. 6 insurrection. Unhumans lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allendes elected government in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that involved tossing political enemies from helicopters.
Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement for years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year, theres long been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, its extremely unusual for a candidate for vice president of the United States to openly align himself with autocratic terror.
. . .
Unhumans, an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co-wrote with the professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements from some of the most influential people in Republican politics, including, most significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD Vance.
As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation of an ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing through the French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write, great men of means are required to crush this scourge. The contempt for democracy in Unhumans is not subtle. Our study of history has brought us to this conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect innocents from the unhumans, write Posobiec and Lisec.
One of their books heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the countrys 1930s civil war. The authors call him a great man of history and compare him to George Washington. They quote him on what doesnt work against the unhuman threat: We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box.
Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that led the Jan. 6 insurrection. Unhumans lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allendes elected government in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that involved tossing political enemies from helicopters.
Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement for years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year, theres long been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, its extremely unusual for a candidate for vice president of the United States to openly align himself with autocratic terror.
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Back in early Aug 2024, I wrote, "I am mystified that the title of this book and the author isn't being spread as far and wide as the danger of project 2025. Unhumans goes so much farther down the dystopian authoritarian path."
By blurbing this book, Vance, Carlson, and Don Jr. are endorsing the glorification of the reign of murdering facists like Franco and Pinochet nd endorsing a vision of DT/Vance leading a similar purge.
When I first posted on this at the beginning of August 2024, I got 4 recs. I was frankly a bit shocked that the response seemed to be a bit of a "nothing new to see here."
Back then, we were less than three weeks into the nascent Harris campaign. The focus was rightly on hope and joy. And I agreed that focusing on positive change -- and particularly instilling hope that transformative change IS possible -- was crucial. But I also said we CANNOT ignore the implication of this book and how utterly horrifying the premise and "solutions" offered are.
The Trump regime is playing the Unhumans playbook of branding anyone who is against them as Subhuman entities (the enemy within) that must be utterly destroyed by whatever means he deems necessary, far more effectively than the Christian Nationalist 2025 agenda.
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