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In reply to the discussion: John Stewart - "I know what I'm seeing in Gaza, [View all]Mosby
(19,172 posts)91. Not true at all, you are very misinformed about Judaic law.
The phrase an eye for an eye is found in a number of places in the Bible. Does this mean that we actually poke out the eye of an eye-poker? Contrary to what some would like to claim, this phrase was never understood or applied in the literal sense. Rather, according to the Oral Torah, this is a directive for monetary compensation to the injured party, as evidenced by the Targum's translation of the phrase.
The Rambam:
How do we know that the intent of the Torah's statement with regard to the loss of a limb, "an eye for an eye," is financial restitution? That same verse continues "a blow for a blow." And with regard to the penalty for giving a colleague a blow, it is explicitly stated: "When a man strikes his colleague with a stone or a fist . . . he should pay for his being idled and for his medical expenses."5 Thus, we learn that the word tachat (תחת
mentioned with regard to a blow indicates the necessity for financial restitution, and so one can conclude that the meaning of the same word with regard to an eye or another limb is also financial restitution.6
In short, this is a figure of speech and is clearly not meant to be taken literally, just as in the English language, if you tell someone to take a bath, it doesnt mean you want the person to rip out the plumbing and carry the tub somewhere. Nor when you say We gave the other team a beating! does it mean that you will find the other team bruised and bloody in the emergency ward. So too, an eye for an eye is not talking about eyeballs; it is merely an idiom that refers to equitable monetary compensation.
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/479511/jewish/What-Does-Eye-for-an-Eye-Really-Mean.htm
This is what religious Jews believe. I don't know what Islam thinks about these passages but I suspect that they don't take it literally. Mostly it's atheists who like to pretend Bible passages are taken literally as a way to make fun of religion.
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Within the next six weeks tens of thousands will die of starvation in Gaza
Prairie Gates
Jul 2025
#1
It is important to understand that Israel does not represent Jews and Jews aren't responsible for Israel.
David__77
Jul 2025
#102
Israelis are responsible for it and all who support the Israeli government.
erodriguez
Jul 2025
#118
Assigning collective guilt to an entire people over the actions of a county. Yes, that is a concern to me.
sarisataka
Jul 2025
#109
Since Israel's mass starvation campaign, I have seen many more comments questioning Israel's legitimacy.
Lonestarblue
Jul 2025
#3
You people are out of control with the Israel bashing, making up stuff, get real, yes there is a difference
Pompoy
Jul 2025
#49
They literally tortured and raped Palestinian Dr Adnan Al-Bursh to death last May nt
Rob H.
Jul 2025
#61
Ah, it's Israel who is evil, not the Palestinians who hide among the women and children while firing rockets etc.
Pompoy
Jul 2025
#76
Lol, Hamas is the reason Israel hasn't driven the Palestinians into open air prison camps?
Pompoy
Jul 2025
#120
Then much more aid will be possible to be delivered. And of course reconstruction
Pompoy
Aug 2025
#124
And thanks for proving that you thought the Israelis were the bad guys even before this assault on Gaza
Pompoy
Aug 2025
#134
You're kind of uninformed. Guess you haven't heard that the ICC has issued an arrest warant for...
brush
Aug 2025
#130
The use of 'executes' is appropriate giving the deliberate targeting and killing of aid seekers by the IDF. It's wanton
Celerity
Aug 2025
#140
and you should know that rhetorical ruse was created to diminish Black Lives Matter
cadoman
Jul 2025
#11
Are those questions intended to justify killing 50x more, plus mass starvation?
Martin Eden
Jul 2025
#19
The UN General Assembly still has not condemned Hamas's genocidal Oct. 7 rape-torture-murder spree.
lapucelle
Jul 2025
#74
So your math doesn't differentiate between the deaths of a Hamas fighter and a young woman at a concert?
Mosby
Jul 2025
#44
The hard core on both sides believe in traditional values, An Eye for an Eye. True? or not true?
Yoyoyo77
Jul 2025
#62
He says in the video that he dearly caes about Israel. I would say that would be a yes.
mjvpi
Jul 2025
#41
The Settlers are just as vicious protecting their stolen property..they have been building settlements
Deuxcents
Jul 2025
#115
no distraction, the fact is you are tokenizing John and claiming that you are being silenced
cadoman
Jul 2025
#20
So "Holocaust Inversion" doesn't have to involve mentioning the Holocaust, Nazis, or WW2, according to you
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2025
#69
Novelist David Grossman says Israeli is committing 'genocide' in Gaza, joining a rising chorus
womanofthehills
Aug 2025
#144
How does Hamas every man woman and child in Gaza? Do you really believe they all believe the exalt same thing.
Yoyoyo77
Jul 2025
#63
While I agree Hamas doesn't have the best interest of Palestinians in mind
EdmondDantes_
Jul 2025
#55
why is Israel the only country that has to apologize for a war it did not start.
jg10003
Jul 2025
#51
Never before has the world watched the killing & maiming of thousands of kids on their phones
womanofthehills
Jul 2025
#75
Israel murders , steals and harasses Palestinians constantly on the West Bank
questionseverything
Jul 2025
#86
According to BBC today , IDF likes shooting little kids in the head and chest
womanofthehills
Aug 2025
#136
Jon Steward would have made a wise Rabbi. He is so well reasoned (and researched) in his opinions. ...
marble falls
Jul 2025
#113
That's an excellent article. Forward always gets it right. Thanks for the link
vanessa_ca
Aug 2025
#135