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milestogo

(21,672 posts) Mon Jul 21, 2025, 11:01 AM Jul 21

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The character Lolita, age 13, was repeatedly raped by the narrator of the book. hedda_foil Jul 21 #1

But Humbert doesn't see it that way. milestogo Jul 21 #2

The reader however, does see it as such Torchlight Jul 21 #3

I read the book a long time ago milestogo Jul 21 #5

I've never read the forward either. But is was pretty clear Humbert is to be seen as a horrible person. emulatorloo Jul 21 #7

The forward merely validated an already existent theme Torchlight Jul 21 #9

Humbert Humbert is what's called an "unreliable narrator." Reader knows he's a full of shit pedophile. emulatorloo Jul 21 #4

Because Jilly_in_VA Jul 21 #6

Background usonian Jul 21 #8

Agree Starbeach Jul 21 #10

Horrible Humbert Express would be a better name. milestogo Jul 21 #12

k and r BoRaGard Jul 21 #11

The term is despicable, implying legitimacy. The old pedophile lie/excuse of "she initiated it". AnotherMother4Peace Jul 21 #13

It implies exploitation and abuse. Torchlight Jul 21 #14

The movie version portrayed Lolita as a seductive underaged "slut" w/the older man at her mercy. He just AnotherMother4Peace Jul 21 #18

Your inference is not a common one. Torchlight Jul 21 #23

My "inference" of Lolita is a common one as evidenced by the term "Lolita Express" - a fucking slam on the young victims AnotherMother4Peace Jul 21 #26

No one would want to admit they find degeneracy "cutesy" Torchlight Jul 21 #28

"We" would be interested in your objective findings as well. It sounds like your sampling was limited AnotherMother4Peace Jul 21 #31

I need to add that the movie character of Lolita thought the older man was a creep & he thought he was God's gift. AnotherMother4Peace Jul 21 #25

There are 2 movie versions of Lolita milestogo Jul 21 #30

Oh - interesting. I watched the 1962 version once & cannot watch it again - too dark for me as a victim myself. AnotherMother4Peace Jul 21 #32

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 21 #35

There are actually two pedophiles in the story: Humbert and Quilty milestogo Jul 21 #36

You may want to reread Lolita, because you didn't get it on the first go around. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 21 #15

You may want to reread my OP, because you didn't get it on the first go around. milestogo Jul 21 #16

Lolita is the term that is used because it's the title. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 21 #17

Stupid and gross. milestogo Jul 21 #19

Never said stupid; I said they don't get it. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 21 #38

Imply is to Infer as Pitch is to Catch Torchlight Jul 21 #21

Nabokov was a modernist Cuthbert Allgood Jul 21 #27

Crap. I originally responded to your post thinking it was one above it. Torchlight Jul 21 #29

It's all good Cuthbert Allgood Jul 21 #33

Indeed. writerJT Jul 21 #37

Jeez, did you read the book? Warpy Jul 21 #20

Ah, so its a novel about self-stimulation. milestogo Jul 21 #24

Uh, no Warpy Jul 21 #39

Good. You should. Iggo Jul 21 #22

I agree. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 21 #34