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NJCher

(42,251 posts)
50. I solved that problem early in life
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 09:32 AM
Jul 2025

by finding a copy of Escape from Freedom in the school library. I can even remember finding it on the shelf, pulling it off the bookcase and scanning over the contents. Probably spent a day and a half reading it and I recall the feeling of "well that explains that." I bought a copy and still have it. I think I was around 12 or 13 when I discovered this.

For MAGAts, it's kinda' like Barbie saying "math is hard."

Here's a few paragraphs of a review:

This book gave me a bit of an existential crisis, but in a good way. In Escape from Freedom, Erich Fromm explores the historical affinity of man towards external authority, from God, to kings, to fascism, and questions why the freedom societies fight so hard for becomes unbearable. According to Fromm, the separation of man from society to enjoy his individuality creates a positive and negative version of freedom. In the former, he can be “himself”, but in the latter, he is unable to be alone. This negative freedom results in a desperate search for solidarity that culminates in authoritarianism, which depends on the interdependence of sadism and masochism to fulfill the primal satisfaction of power and submission.

I also enjoyed Fromm’s discussion of the dilemma of freedom in modern democratic nations, where we are encouraged to be free, but this freedom is defined for us already and nobody truly has any thoughts, ideas or goals independent from society. Fromm isn’t recommending anarchy, but that society’s goals shift to the cultivation of minds and individuals rather than capital. Fromm’s solution to the freedom question is spontaneity, or a creative expression of love and work that unites man with nature and others and allows him to truly be himself without isolation.

There’s so much more that this book gets into, from how Protestantism created the ideological grounds for capitalism to how media in democracies is designed to placate the masses. In the end, this book made me think a lot more about what I really think, and I’d recommend it to anyone who’s interested in redefining their perception of freedom and individuality.


Had I not found this book, I'd have been as puzzled as you were by anyone wanting to live in an authoritarian regime.

And notice in the above 3 paragraphs how we here at DU picked up on all this and we frequently criticize it (media, for example).

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11 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Oops. GoCubsGo Jul 2025 #1
Something is fishy about this. There is a language barrier unless these fools speak Russian. brush Jul 2025 #65
they take everyone and I'm not surprised WhiteTara Jul 2025 #66
But does the family speak Russian? Ordinary magats from AZ then TEX... brush Jul 2025 #70
she says no, he doesn't understand Russian WhiteTara Jul 2025 #72
Please, the N. Koreans were army units sent by their government. This is not the same thing. brush Jul 2025 #75
Okay. WhiteTara Jul 2025 #82
We have a Canadian family that did the exact same thing, with their 8 children Bev54 Jul 2025 #92
Sad. I guess some are gullible enough. One family in Canada, one here. Not the sharpest tools in the shed. brush Jul 2025 #93
The Canadian Family has boys who are teen and pre-teen so let's see what happens to them in the near future. Bev54 Jul 2025 #101
Fidiots! I would give almost anything to be Canadian. OMGWTF Jul 2025 #107
Eons better than being in Russia with megalomaniac leader who starts wars, IMO. brush Jul 2025 #128
How full of hate that you move to a Communist country slightlv Jul 2025 #123
The Feenstras from Canada went 2024, Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #104
Mom and Pop in that Pic are grinning; the kids,not so much. mwmisses4289 Jul 2025 #109
Gotta watch those Russian leopards. brush Jul 2025 #130
If t's bullshit, what's the payoff? 3Hotdogs Jul 2025 #119
All I know is, even with trump's crap, I still prefer living here than in Putin's Russia. brush Jul 2025 #131
Plenty of folks from lots of places that dont speak much or any english quakerboy Jul 2025 #127
The US, Canada and European countries don't have an ex-KGB megaloniacal leader who starts wars... brush Jul 2025 #129
Well.. Canada and most of europe dont, at any rate quakerboy Jul 2025 #137
Russa? A totaatarian dictatorship? Please. brush Jul 2025 #138
You dont know people that stupid? quakerboy Jul 2025 #139
They're not in the crowd I associate with. brush Jul 2025 #140
She says in the vid that they have special teams made up of foreigners. jmbar2 Jul 2025 #87
The N. Koreans were N. Korean army units, not at all the same thing. And learning a language takes... brush Jul 2025 #91
While it doesn't speak about US recruits, it does include many who are unlikely to speak Russian. Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #111
I agree MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #116
The French Foreign Legion trains its members in French. cab67 Jul 2025 #133
This message was self-deleted by its author markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #96
The Nazis figured out how to do it, the Russians can certainly do so. eppur_se_muova Jul 2025 #115
Ah, but they have broke free of western propaganda Captain Zero Jul 2025 #2
I am interested in what happened to them too. yardwork Jul 2025 #14
With government assistance they're getting along ok. carpetbagger Jul 2025 #57
Learning Russian is no day at the beach. SergeStorms Jul 2025 #110
You can find their updates on youtube under countryside acres the Feenstra family Bev54 Jul 2025 #136
Guy will be fragged by his comrades for sheer stupidity Prairie Gates Jul 2025 #3
That's what happened to last guy from Texas Diraven Jul 2025 #108
They've thrown of the tyranny of All Things Considered & Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Torchlight Jul 2025 #4
"Ha ha. Sucker. Ha ha." - Krasnov (R-Felon/Rapist) and KGOP Kronies BoRaGard Jul 2025 #5
he deserves the death he has coming down his life tunnel like a freight train Celerity Jul 2025 #6
Be a real shame if he gets snuffed by trump's new policy change on arming Ukraine Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2025 #10
One of those Looney Toon type cartoon bombs newdeal2 Jul 2025 #12
Wonder if any other trad value types will join them? mwmisses4289 Jul 2025 #7
Yes. Russian NRA 'honeypot' Maria Butina is promoting this as a member of the Russian Parliament emulatorloo Jul 2025 #34
As always, theory crumbled in the face of reality DFW Jul 2025 #8
The consistent theme appears to be a desire for authoritarianism. yardwork Jul 2025 #13
Well put. DFW Jul 2025 #29
The desire for authoritarianism does seem to fly in the face... 3catwoman3 Jul 2025 #45
It's about telling the women and minorities what to do JI7 Jul 2025 #99
I solved that problem early in life NJCher Jul 2025 #50
only slightly OT, but NJCher Jul 2025 #54
Winning hearts and minds... Hugin Jul 2025 #71
These people don't want to think for themselves Wicked Blue Jul 2025 #58
That is spot on. Mr. Evil Jul 2025 #60
Hear, hear! Republicans, please... SpankMe Jul 2025 #51
Back in the day, it was Republicans who used to say... yardwork Jul 2025 #73
And now he can be heard saying I didn't vote for this Fullduplexxx Jul 2025 #19
DUzy! yardwork Jul 2025 #74
Well, he is already brain-dead dalton99a Jul 2025 #9
Wow, they moved there in early 2025 and he's already been drafted & sent to the front lines? tanyev Jul 2025 #11
I think he voluntarily enlisted in the army. LisaL Jul 2025 #20
He volunteered to get into a truck, or be thrown into it. Omnipresent Jul 2025 #59
He "volunteered" because it fast-tracks them for citizenship. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2025 #26
It probably wasn't his brightest idea. LisaL Jul 2025 #27
Woke? PhilG Jul 2025 #47
Hey, it's a job in a place totally without social security nets or a free market economy. Hugin Jul 2025 #68
They do have universal healthcare at least (I think)! Lucky Luciano Jul 2025 #106
"I want to contribute and earn our place here by serving in the Russian army." dalton99a Jul 2025 #15
Oh, I didn't realize enlisting was his plan all along. tanyev Jul 2025 #17
" ... moving to Russia and enlisting in the military is a good life plan is already exhibiting poor thinking skills." Botany Jul 2025 #31
Yes, he will be dead by fall. BigMin28 Jul 2025 #36
The North Koreans in Ukraine have a 33% casualty rate and any Russian who is spotted now is Botany Jul 2025 #38
Depending on interpretation SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #21
In some ways his path parallels that of Lee Harvey Oswald Captain Zero Jul 2025 #134
The morons can't grasp: Some people are WIRED DIFFERENTLY & how dare you be arrogant enough TO JUDGE OR MISTREAT THEM? lostnfound Jul 2025 #23
The "judge not lest ye be judged" exhortation seems to be the most often... 3catwoman3 Jul 2025 #43
Matthew Cirsium Jul 2025 #97
What an idiot. LudwigPastorius Jul 2025 #88
Their ignorance is costing them everything Johnny2X2X Jul 2025 #16
I have no doubt that the 3 young girls will grow up hating and resenting their parents FakeNoose Jul 2025 #61
And the leopard says, "Burp." Botany Jul 2025 #18
Still on the run WalkingMan1959 Jul 2025 #22
I'm just heartbroken . . . AverageOldGuy Jul 2025 #24
For the kids yes I am. riversedge Jul 2025 #69
His uniform can be the Red Star Trek shirt rpannier Jul 2025 #25
If the MAGAT is truly Trad, he requests assignment to Motorized Infantry Best_man23 Jul 2025 #28
Bigotry is a hell of a drug LonePirate Jul 2025 #30
FAFO mzmolly Jul 2025 #32
They are where they belong UpInArms Jul 2025 #33
And how long do they think they can keep the children ignorant about things outside their bubble? tanyev Jul 2025 #48
You can't fix stupid UpInArms Jul 2025 #52
Moscow is cleaner and safer because anything else gets you dead. What an inspiration. mucholderthandirt Jul 2025 #63
Wow that sounds wonderful kkmarie Jul 2025 #35
3 weeks of training to become cannon fodder? He'll be over trained. dem4decades Jul 2025 #37
I could understand Sweden, Finland but, Russia? chouchou Jul 2025 #39
I wonder if any of the friends and family who supported their move are also considering making the same move? mwmisses4289 Jul 2025 #40
Front lines nowforever Jul 2025 #41
They bought to kool aid mgardener Jul 2025 #42
Hope he's enjoying Putin's trad return to Soviet society. Liberal In Texas Jul 2025 #44
Just when you think that Pototan Jul 2025 #46
Can I Rebl2 Jul 2025 #49
What else is there to say but Ray Bruns Jul 2025 #53
Sorry, not sorry WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2025 #55
Hard to believe anybody's this stupid, this has to be a troll Warpy Jul 2025 #56
Actually it is very sad Stuckinthebush Jul 2025 #62
Stupid would be an improvement for these meatheads. Basso8vb Jul 2025 #64
jmbar2............ Upthevibe Jul 2025 #67
It would be supremely ironic if his daughter turns out to be LGBTQ after all this. jmbar2 Jul 2025 #79
Probably why she was talking to her friend about it.... reACTIONary Jul 2025 #118
There was a Canadian family that did the same with their 8 children Bev54 Jul 2025 #76
According to recent news articles I read, they are doing well. Kaleva Jul 2025 #85
Did the Russian government give them a farm as they expected? Bev54 Jul 2025 #86
A link Kaleva Jul 2025 #132
Thanks, I did find their youtube channel, their son is getting big, might be drafted soon. Bev54 Jul 2025 #135
Get fucked, traitors! RockRaven Jul 2025 #77
What a naive ditz. efhmc Jul 2025 #78
Now that he's in the army, some advice: Ping Tung Jul 2025 #80
Live and learn, live the hard way. republianmushroom Jul 2025 #81
What's that phrase? Bettie Jul 2025 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius Jul 2025 #84
Traditional values? peggysue2 Jul 2025 #89
Ultimate FAFO. I am so sorry they thought things would be better in the Russia ... marble falls Jul 2025 #90
Dude's gonna actually die for this. Iggo Jul 2025 #94
Happiness is a warm gun struggle4progress Jul 2025 #95
Probably believed Tucker Carlson's reporting on how wonderful Russia is Blue Owl Jul 2025 #98
She sounds too calm to fully understand how badly they fucked up. Baitball Blogger Jul 2025 #100
Poor kids didn't have any say in the parents oasis Jul 2025 #102
The more people like them that move to Russia the better off we are. Raftergirl Jul 2025 #103
Pay attention kids: Be very careful what you ask for rurallib Jul 2025 #105
Not saying this is for sure real, soldierant Jul 2025 #112
FAFO. Leopards, do your job nt Javaman Jul 2025 #113
Oh well, they just found out what life in Russia is like for an immigrant. patphil Jul 2025 #114
Enjoy the collusion, comrade! czarjak Jul 2025 #117
Dumber than rocks. Joinfortmill Jul 2025 #120
Vlad better have called this dumbass Hassler Jul 2025 #121
lIfe is tough....it's even tougher if you're stupid democratsruletheday Jul 2025 #122
John Wayne would probably know that every well Skittles Jul 2025 #124
It's logical that he has to sacrifice for the fatherland Renew Deal Jul 2025 #125
SUCKER. Historic NY Jul 2025 #126
👍👍👍 Rebl2 Jul 2025 #141
Oh no. Anyway... Scott Alan Swaggerty Jul 2025 #142
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