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11. Democrats have been trying for many decades. Clinton administration "Hillarycare," Obama ACA (zero

Sun Jul 13, 2025, 02:04 AM

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Republican votes, public option removed after House passed it -- not enough votes). Hillary ran on ACA with public option and Medicare eligibility at 55, Biden same with Medicare eligibility at 60. Not enough votes. Health care as a right not a privilege is bedrock Democratic issue. Republicans will always block any medical coverage for all. Other countries developed their systems long ago.

Interesting that in Europe a strong social safety net is very important to right-wing anti-immigration populist movement supporters but in the U.S. supporters will literally vote themselves right into the grave with their Republican votes because Republicans want no social safety net at all.

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Who wants Medicare For All? [View all] applegrove Jul 12 OP

Project 2025 is for pushing people into Advantage scams Skittles Jul 12 #1

Well, some of us have been pre paying it for 40 years.... MichMan Jul 12 #2

I started paying Medicare when I was 16. I got benefits at 65 comradebillyboy Jul 13 #5

Sad thing is, a Pew Poll in 2023 showed 57% of population supports universal coverage, but 53% want private insurance. Silent Type Jul 12 #3

re: "recent attitudes about the government's involvement in the healthcare system" rog Jul 13 #20

The government would have no say... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 13 #22

I don't know - I could ask my sister - but here's what I found just now. rog Jul 13 #30

You might be interested in this article, re: Canadian healthcare from an American perspective. rog Jul 13 #31

Here is a less-than-3-minute presentation by a Canadian physician, comparing ... rog Jul 14 #35

Bolded below is what I'm talking about SickOfTheOnePct Jul 14 #36

Here is a province-by-province breakdown as to what's covered. rog Jul 14 #37

Thanks SickOfTheOnePct Jul 14 #38

Are we having an argument???? Jeez, I didn't know. rog Jul 14 #40

Explain it to the 53% who still don't get it after decades. If we can't explain it to them, Silent Type Jul 13 #23

Unfortunately you will get no argument from me about that. rog Jul 13 #25

I want universal government funded healthcare ibegurpard Jul 13 #4

Being an old fart I know what Medicare is and what it comradebillyboy Jul 13 #6

He never mentions Green Mountain Care, when Vermont tried a Medicare for All type plan but couldn't pay for it betsuni Jul 13 #7

Every other developed country has medical coverage for all... why is it only impossible for the US? bsiebs Jul 13 #8

Provinces in Canada each have different healthcare for all. applegrove Jul 13 #9

Democrats have been trying for many decades. Clinton administration "Hillarycare," Obama ACA (zero betsuni Jul 13 #11

Hard to sell voters on a VAT MichMan Jul 13 #19

re: Canadian VAT, via the Tax Policy Center rog Jul 13 #24

"no actual substance" Skittles Jul 13 #10

Me. H2O Man Jul 13 #12

Anyone who doesn't want to continue to suffer until they die in a fascist hellhole where health, science, and quality of Karasu Jul 13 #13

It's not what the people want that matters in the US, it's what the oligarchs want. raccoon Jul 13 #14

Minimum Public Option uponit7771 Jul 13 #15

Think that's best we'll ever get. If it's as good as we think/hope, people will quickly convert. Silent Type Jul 13 #26

A polite reminder to everyone KentuckyWoman Jul 13 #16

Compaired to what we have, it would be a step in the right direction. Emile Jul 13 #17

Yes for sure mvd Jul 13 #18

That would be a nice start Bettie Jul 13 #21

Some states have experience with public/private carriers for Medicaid bucolic_frolic Jul 13 #27

I would like to see a Medicare system for all along with a Medicaid system that does not force hard working in2herbs Jul 13 #28

England seems to be doing nicely B.See Jul 13 #29

20% VAT in the UK MichMan Jul 13 #32

Yes, but B.See Jul 13 #33

This is a link to PNHP's overview of the 2023 Senate bill introduced by Sens Sanders and Dingell and th House Nanjeanne Jul 13 #34

Senator Sanders and co-sponsors. Passages Jul 14 #39

Even Elon Musk's hero Javier Melei... biocube Jul 14 #41