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JCMach1

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12. Albert Spear's Inside the Third Reich is also good

Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:57 PM

Jul 2

For understanding how people get pulled in to doing both the banal and the horrific.

The thing that gets me is Trump has no likable traits at all. He's a toxic human being excluding the political stuff. I dont get that part at all.

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We're already past the beginning of the Nazi/Holocaust, we're already several stages in. [View all] Swede Jul 2 OP

People say we're in 1933 Germany. Initech Jul 2 #1

Exactly. In 2018 I said it was 1933 Germany. n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2 #15

Same here Cosmocat Jul 3 #26

Now it feels like we're in 1940 Germany and he's about to do something catastrophic. Initech Jul 3 #32

Some sort of attack, protest, real or false ... MiHale Jul 3 #56

Midterms will not be cancelled TnDem Jul 6 #91

Let's get bdamomma Jul 3 #57

Personally I was telling people were were Germany 1933 8 years ago Cosmocat Jul 3 #25

8 years from 1933 1941. The year before the Wansea Conference and the Final Solution. hedda_foil Jul 3 #47

In June he said he wanted more camps. Dixiegrrrl Jul 3 #34

So true. And it's not gonna stop with undocumented migrants or documented immigrants. wnylib Jul 3 #59

I don't want to be a passive witness Easterncedar Jul 2 #2

I am hoping for bdamomma Jul 3 #62

No. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2 #3

Explain, please. Simply denying facts does not negate them. niyad Jul 2 #10

No explanation needed. Simply repeating false claims does not make them facts. Oopsie Daisy Jul 3 #18

Denial is not a river in Egypt. But keep telling yourself whatever lets niyad Jul 3 #19

Where are the gas chambers and cremation ovens and mass graves? Oopsie Daisy Jul 3 #22

They're coming. Swede Jul 3 #23

Nope. Oopsie Daisy Jul 3 #29

Sorry, DENVERPOPS Jul 3 #35

Who? TnDem Jul 6 #92

Not really sure DENVERPOPS Jul 6 #94

The deaths don't have to happen the same way MadameButterfly Jul 3 #30

EXACTLY! cornball 24 Jul 3 #37

False, it didn't ***START*** that way ... you know this or should seeing you're arguing the point uponit7771 Jul 3 #42

They did not come until 1942, but preparations were made in the years preceding. hedda_foil Jul 3 #48

The great effort given to splitting hairs reveals the weakness of these claims, and lets me know that I'm correct. Oopsie Daisy Jul 3 #50

No, you're not correct the OP has beginning and stages in it while you're arguing against that point with Nazi end ... uponit7771 Jul 3 #51

Hyper parsing words in that way, again, reveals the weakness in the arguments being made. Oopsie Daisy Jul 3 #53

That's not hyper parsing, the OP was clear; "beginning ... " end point Nazi was some other level shit but they started . uponit7771 Jul 3 #58

I've made my point. I'm done with you. Oopsie Daisy Jul 3 #61

So the fact that it is their intent but isn't there yet is the hair you want to split? Pacifist Patriot Jul 3 #67

Calling things what they are not solves nothing. This solves nothing. It changes nothing. Oopsie Daisy Jul 3 #68

First of all, it is *literally* a concentration camp as per the dictionary definition. Girard442 Jul 3 #54

It is LITERALLY not a concentration camp in the way that it's being compared to Nazi Concentration Camps * Oopsie Daisy Jul 3 #60

So, when many people confined in Alligator Alcatraz die after a hurricane... Girard442 Jul 3 #63

Any loss of life is tragic, if such a thing happens. But you're conflating two completely different things. Oopsie Daisy Jul 3 #70

You are aware that Auschwitz was primarily a concentration camp, and a labor camp, right? Ms. Toad Jul 5 #78

This is not the holocaust nor is the the beginning of the holocaust. Oopsie Daisy Jul 5 #79

If we ignore the similarities to the past, we are doomed to repeat it. Ms. Toad Jul 6 #81

TLDR Oopsie Daisy Jul 6 #82

Kinda like the US response to Hitler, before he murdered millions. Not my problem. Don't bother me about it. Ms. Toad Jul 6 #83

Thank you. My thoughts exactly Bluestocking Jul 5 #80

Sorry, but you know just enough to be dangerous TnDem Jul 6 #93

Just a question... lonely bird Jul 3 #21

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OKay atreides1 Jul 3 #31

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Cheaper to feed people to alligators than build ovens - TBF Jul 3 #38

ICE spending enid602 Jul 3 #55

Am I understanding you correctly, and you will not accept that we're on this path until we've reached the finish line? Pacifist Patriot Jul 3 #45

Well, be gobsmacked then. People can call them "concentration camps" all they want to but that doesn't make it true. Oopsie Daisy Jul 3 #49

Okay, let me be perfectly clear. This is not hyperbole. It's a fucking death camp. Pacifist Patriot Jul 3 #65

Oh, it's not a matter of my misunderstanding you. You've been perfectly clear, all right. Oopsie Daisy Jul 3 #66

An expert on concentration camps disagrees with you. Andrea Pitzer, niyad Jul 5 #74

As it's being used here, the words "concentration camp" are meant to be a direct comparison to * Oopsie Daisy Jul 5 #75

Just stop already. Your posted insistence on this horror being anything niyad Jul 5 #76

I've done no such thing. I've repeatedly acknowledged that it's a horrible situation. But * Oopsie Daisy Jul 5 #77

When that happens, it will be far too late. Stop ignoring the warning signs that are everywhere. W_HAMILTON Jul 6 #84

Technically? Yes uponit7771 Jul 3 #41

Those calling this the beginning B.See Jul 2 #4

Agree - TBF Jul 3 #39

This is true! tblue37 Jul 2 #5

THIS IS WRONG!!!!! BurnDoubt Jul 2 #6

MEANING??? niyad Jul 2 #11

Sorry--- Not a dispute. Entire Administration policies ARE WRONG!!!!! BurnDoubt Jul 2 #16

Thank you for clarifying. niyad Jul 2 #17

We're proper cooked either way, right now we're arguing Nazi or Nazi light with one too many DUrs uponit7771 Jul 3 #43

So Horrifically True. Cha Jul 2 #7

I have read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" four times, once about every 12-15 years. SharonAnn Jul 2 #8

Monumental historic account.. Permanut Jul 2 #9

Albert Spear's Inside the Third Reich is also good JCMach1 Jul 2 #12

He's also fucking stupid. Which is unfortunately a plus here, and only here. This country glorifies and celebrates Karasu Jul 2 #13

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Don't leave out the 6 christo-fascist pigs on the SC and some of their spouses who are equally piggy wolfie001 Jul 2 #14

He just said that natural born citizens are next Javaman Jul 3 #20

The water's getting hot and the frog ain't going anywhere. Torchlight Jul 3 #27

Was Jan6 kkmarie Jul 3 #33

Yes, Hitler served more time than Trump and didn't have 1 billionaire bankrolling 33% of his campaign. uponit7771 Jul 3 #44

I am scared LetMyPeopleVote Jul 3 #40

Temporary... Fl_life Jul 3 #46

When do we get to the part C_U_L8R Jul 3 #52

Absolutely. Most elected Dems are still at the " Gee, I don't like where this might end up" phase Bluetus Jul 3 #64

The scariest part to me... Pacifist Patriot Jul 4 #71

Probably a good time to remind ourselves of Pastor Martin Niemller Bluetus Jul 4 #72

Yes to both sentiments. Pacifist Patriot Jul 4 #73

Spend more time going after the MAGA Republicans responsible for this and less time attacking Democrats... W_HAMILTON Jul 6 #85

We cannot change the Republicans. We much overpower them. Bluetus Jul 6 #87

Stop blaming Democrats for the failures of the voters. W_HAMILTON Jul 6 #88

Excuse me, I am 70 and there hasn't been a single election when I had any input Bluetus Jul 6 #89

BTW, here is an example of a leader and a plan Bluetus Jul 6 #90

Effective action, my ass. W_HAMILTON Jul 7 #95

2 points Bluetus Jul 7 #96

Two points right back: W_HAMILTON Jul 7 #97

You are making my point Bluetus Jul 7 #98

THIS !!! 1 too many are thinking political power IMHO vs we're going where we can't get out even with elections uponit7771 Jul 6 #86

K&R! William769 Jul 3 #69