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In reply to the discussion: We're already past the beginning of the Nazi/Holocaust, we're already several stages in. [View all]
Initech
(107,163 posts)1. People say we're in 1933 Germany.
Hell no, we're in 1939 Germany and I feel like this administration is about to do something really catastrophic. In addition to the thousands of laws and treaties and other rights they've violated. 
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We're already past the beginning of the Nazi/Holocaust, we're already several stages in. [View all]
Swede
Jul 2025
OP
Now it feels like we're in 1940 Germany and he's about to do something catastrophic.
Initech
Jul 2025
#32
8 years from 1933 1941. The year before the Wansea Conference and the Final Solution.
hedda_foil
Jul 2025
#47
So true. And it's not gonna stop with undocumented migrants or documented immigrants.
wnylib
Jul 2025
#59
No explanation needed. Simply repeating false claims does not make them facts.
Oopsie Daisy
Jul 2025
#18
False, it didn't ***START*** that way ... you know this or should seeing you're arguing the point
uponit7771
Jul 2025
#42
They did not come until 1942, but preparations were made in the years preceding.
hedda_foil
Jul 2025
#48
The great effort given to splitting hairs reveals the weakness of these claims, and lets me know that I'm correct.
Oopsie Daisy
Jul 2025
#50
No, you're not correct the OP has beginning and stages in it while you're arguing against that point with Nazi end ...
uponit7771
Jul 2025
#51
Hyper parsing words in that way, again, reveals the weakness in the arguments being made.
Oopsie Daisy
Jul 2025
#53
That's not hyper parsing, the OP was clear; "beginning ... " end point Nazi was some other level shit but they started .
uponit7771
Jul 2025
#58
So the fact that it is their intent but isn't there yet is the hair you want to split?
Pacifist Patriot
Jul 2025
#67
Calling things what they are not solves nothing. This solves nothing. It changes nothing.
Oopsie Daisy
Jul 2025
#68
First of all, it is *literally* a concentration camp as per the dictionary definition.
Girard442
Jul 2025
#54
It is LITERALLY not a concentration camp in the way that it's being compared to Nazi Concentration Camps *
Oopsie Daisy
Jul 2025
#60
Any loss of life is tragic, if such a thing happens. But you're conflating two completely different things.
Oopsie Daisy
Jul 2025
#70
You are aware that Auschwitz was primarily a concentration camp, and a labor camp, right?
Ms. Toad
Jul 2025
#78
Kinda like the US response to Hitler, before he murdered millions. Not my problem. Don't bother me about it.
Ms. Toad
Jul 2025
#83
Am I understanding you correctly, and you will not accept that we're on this path until we've reached the finish line?
Pacifist Patriot
Jul 2025
#45
Well, be gobsmacked then. People can call them "concentration camps" all they want to but that doesn't make it true.
Oopsie Daisy
Jul 2025
#49
Okay, let me be perfectly clear. This is not hyperbole. It's a fucking death camp.
Pacifist Patriot
Jul 2025
#65
Oh, it's not a matter of my misunderstanding you. You've been perfectly clear, all right.
Oopsie Daisy
Jul 2025
#66
As it's being used here, the words "concentration camp" are meant to be a direct comparison to *
Oopsie Daisy
Jul 2025
#75
I've done no such thing. I've repeatedly acknowledged that it's a horrible situation. But *
Oopsie Daisy
Jul 2025
#77
When that happens, it will be far too late. Stop ignoring the warning signs that are everywhere.
W_HAMILTON
Jul 2025
#84
We're proper cooked either way, right now we're arguing Nazi or Nazi light with one too many DUrs
uponit7771
Jul 2025
#43
I have read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" four times, once about every 12-15 years.
SharonAnn
Jul 2025
#8
He's also fucking stupid. Which is unfortunately a plus here, and only here. This country glorifies and celebrates
Karasu
Jul 2025
#13
Don't leave out the 6 christo-fascist pigs on the SC and some of their spouses who are equally piggy
wolfie001
Jul 2025
#14
Yes, Hitler served more time than Trump and didn't have 1 billionaire bankrolling 33% of his campaign.
uponit7771
Jul 2025
#44
Absolutely. Most elected Dems are still at the " Gee, I don't like where this might end up" phase
Bluetus
Jul 2025
#64
Spend more time going after the MAGA Republicans responsible for this and less time attacking Democrats...
W_HAMILTON
Jul 2025
#85
Excuse me, I am 70 and there hasn't been a single election when I had any input
Bluetus
Jul 2025
#89