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hunter

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87. Most bees and ants cannot reproduce. Nevertheless these species persist.

Reply to Hellbound Hellhound (Reply #47)

Sat Jun 21, 2025, 01:48 PM

Jun 21

Many non-social animals have high reproductive rates and most of their offspring die before reaching reproductive age.

Humans are social animals. There's no reason for each and every one of us to reproduce.

It's better, in fact, if we do not.

Contrary to certain myths, human children and their parents are dependent on their communities for their survival.

Most obviously, homosexuality does not preclude procreation except in societies that actively torture, kill, and persecute homosexuals.

Equating homosexuality with a "mutation" is offensive -- it's a trait that's existed throughout human history and millions of years beyond that. It's part of who we are as humans, no different than the color of our eyes or the hues of our skin.

We can accept and celebrate our diversity as humans or we can suffer.

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Interesting thought. Biophilic Jun 20 #1

I fail to see how I'm wrong EnergizedLib Jun 20 #2

Sorry, I didn't think you were wrong. Biophilic Jun 20 #14

Another unseemly fact BOSSHOG Jun 20 #18

I believe that it's because of non-profit status. Could be wrong. usonian Jun 20 #39

There are lots of non-religious people who are homophobic - Ms. Toad Jun 20 #19

I know they exist EnergizedLib Jun 20 #21

Not any louder, just more organized. Ms. Toad Jun 20 #25

Thank you, Ms. Toad TommyT139 Jun 20 #57

Sad Christians dpibel Jun 20 #63

If your comment was to me TommyT139 Jun 20 #71

No true Christian it is, then dpibel Jun 21 #73

Agreed. Ms. Toad Jun 21 #75

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I'm a Quaker. Ms. Toad Jun 21 #74

Quite likely. summer_in_TX Jun 21 #89

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And at the top of their lungs! NM Grins Jun 20 #32

Look up open and affirming churches JT45242 Jun 20 #50

I get taken aback when I see kind and positive messages from churches EnergizedLib Jun 20 #61

I'm working at our booth at Pride tomorrow for a few hours JT45242 Jun 20 #70

I attended a local pride event just last Sunday where multiple open and affirming churches had booths. ShazzieB Jun 21 #84

Religion is just a crutch used to hide their own personal bigotry. Lucky Luciano Jun 20 #48

Whenever I heard the so called "fact" SilverDawg Jun 20 #3

"You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. spike jones Jun 20 #4

Perfect. liberalla Jun 20 #8

And as George Carlin pointed out.. Permanut Jun 20 #55

God created man in His own image Seinan Sensei Jun 20 #56

Some folks believe ProudToronto Jun 20 #5

And if you suggest... GiqueCee Jun 20 #15

It's an argument with no basis in fact mdbl Jun 20 #16

My point exactly. nt GiqueCee Jun 21 #78

And they're right, it's faith. Faith is defined as belief held in spite if a lack of evidence. Towlie Jun 20 #46

I think you have all living things and the creation of religion transposed. efhmc Jun 20 #29

Not at all. Jirel Jun 20 #53

Well, THAT is an incredibly broad statement. ShazzieB Jun 21 #85

Whatever gets you through the night... GiqueCee Jun 21 #77

The primary difference between the concept of God(s) or not haele Jun 20 #30

This is where I disagree EnergizedLib Jun 20 #42

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If someone were to say ProudToronto Jun 20 #9

Did you not read the DU Terms of Service when you registered? That opinion is not allowed at DU, and for good reason. Heidi Jun 21 #79

The "great arbiter" here is the DU Terms of Service. Heidi Jun 21 #82

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Ha! That is great. John1956PA Jun 20 #37

That's not really ProudToronto Jun 20 #11

I believe biology rules on this issue... hlthe2b Jun 20 #13

Good comment. They protesteth too much and perhaps they reveal their fears that may be driven by their own desires. Doodley Jun 20 #33

I speak from experience EnergizedLib Jun 20 #22

Prove them wrong? stillcool Jun 20 #34

Also, ProudToronto Jun 20 #12

Man created god in his own image... Wounded Bear Jun 20 #17

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That doesn't stand up to scrutiny Renew Deal Jun 20 #28

Too sophisticated for me dpibel Jun 20 #64

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Michelangelo, Creation of Adam 1512 Marcuse Jun 20 #27

There doesn't seem to be any religious texts to hamper the God fearing busybodies? Omnipresent Jun 20 #31

Oh I don't know about that ..... ProudToronto Jun 20 #36

you are correct. and THAT one quite easily demonstrated/proved ... stopdiggin Jun 20 #41

So far I see nothing but ProudToronto Jun 20 #35

I read through the entire string (thus far .. ) stopdiggin Jun 20 #38

HUUUUUUUUUUGE waste of time Skittles Jun 20 #66

you sound very defensive Skittles Jun 20 #65

Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man. Thomas Paine Ping Tung Jun 20 #40

A cruel man fashions for himself a cruel God. harumph Jun 21 #81

I think it's fairly kind ProudToronto Jun 20 #43

Yet, that one Old Testament reading in Leviticus EnergizedLib Jun 20 #45

I think both are man-made, for varying permutations of "Man Made". Hellbound Hellhound Jun 20 #47

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Unintentional (I think) hilarity dpibel Jun 20 #67

Most bees and ants cannot reproduce. Nevertheless these species persist. hunter Jun 21 #87

Religion is fucked ZDU Jun 20 #51

biggest child groomers on the planet Skittles Jun 20 #69

99% of "religious" people are brain washed as children Nigrum Cattus Jun 20 #52

Well there you go. ProudToronto Jun 20 #54

So the number's not 99 dpibel Jun 20 #68

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Thank you for this! 🩷 Heidi Jun 21 #83

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