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Scrivener7

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28. Nope. Run a middle aged, white, protestant, straight man and we'll win. Without

Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:14 PM

Jun 2025

changing a letter of the platform.

I'm not saying the platform can't be improved. Of course it can. But that's not the reason we lost. We lost because too many Democrats are racist and sexist and decided to stay home.

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Harris Walz 2028? [View all] SSJVegeta Jun 2025 OP

How about Whitmer/Buttigieg benpollard Jun 2025 #1

I like Harris a lot, but sadly I don't think a woman has a chance of winning Ocelot II Jun 2025 #2

Women make up a majority of the country. SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #6

Yes it was. Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #11

A *lot* of women voted for Trump. A majority of White women voted for him. Ocelot II Jun 2025 #14

Racism was a major issue in 2008 and 2012 too. But it didnt cost Obama the elections SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #59

Many women, especially in the South, are not "comfortable voting for a woman for president" Iris Jun 2025 #58

I think Biden did a lot of damage to the party AZProgressive Jun 2025 #36

It's not that either Clinton or Harris were unpopular; they weren't unpopular with Democrats. Ocelot II Jun 2025 #38

I think it would be more difficult to win a primary--same as Bernie Sanders AZProgressive Jun 2025 #40

Myth that the majority of Americans are secretly populist progressives yearning for economic class revolution betsuni Jun 2025 #49

"In October, O'Malley Dillon and Lorraine Voles, Harris's chief of staff, had gone to the White House betsuni Jun 2025 #47

I might go for Walz at the top of the ticket RandomNumbers Jun 2025 #3

I think one thing that could have helped Harris is if Biden would have assigned her karynnj Jun 2025 #9

I would strongly consider that... Walz is WONDERFUL!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2025 #24

Sometimes i wonder... Beartracks Jun 2025 #35

Like it or not, we will not win if a woman is atop the ticket. This backwards country will not elect a female president. LonePirate Jun 2025 #4

Women make up a majority ofbthe country and a woman won the popular vote in 2016. SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #7

Yes it was. Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #13

Not even a little bit. SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #15

You must be a man. Women *know* misogyny when we see it Ocelot II Jun 2025 #16

Just because misogny exists, doesnt mean that a fascist was elected solely because of it. SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #19

Clearly. Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #20

And what do you say about all of the women who failed to vote for Harris, and/or voted for Trump SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #21

No. Many didn't vote for her because she's a woman. Others didn't vote for her because she's black. Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #22

If sexism was the reason, Clinton wouldnt have won the popular vote. If racsm was the reason, Obama would never SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #27

Nope. Run a middle aged, white, protestant, straight man and we'll win. Without Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #28

I guarantee Harris and Clinton would have lost if they were men. SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #37

That's nice. But it's ridiculous to say you guarantee such a thing. Have a lovely evening. Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #52

A losing message is a loser irregardless of the messenger. SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #57

I agree... we need to stop the misogyny!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2025 #25

Yes thank you!! And mark my words: SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #39

I could not agree with you MORE!! I believe the torch is starting to be passed to AOC & she IS the future of our party!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2025 #44

Absolutely SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #46

Cheers to AOC!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2025 #60

Maybe deal with the existing problems before looking to the next election Bev54 Jun 2025 #5

Precisely. Besides, B.See Jun 2025 #48

I think... Mike Nelson Jun 2025 #8

Me too!! As long as we stick to our progressive principles, we are going to kick some serious ass in 2028!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2025 #26

Agree that we need to focus on 2026--also who knows about 2028 indigovalley Jun 2025 #10

Oh, hell no Polybius Jun 2025 #12

Adlai Stevenson was a great man. But your point is heard and well received. SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #42

It might be unprecedented but the combination of Harris/Walz, with sufficient time to campaign, would be a powerful one InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2025 #45

I'll decide which candidates are best for the job Torchlight Jun 2025 #17

Hard pass. Ace Rothstein Jun 2025 #18

I'm for whoever can win. We cannot afford to lose again. kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2025 #23

If they came out of the primary as the ticket I'd vote for it. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2025 #29

This! Polybius Jun 2025 #30

I will vote straight Dem no matter who the candidate is samnsara Jun 2025 #31

I will vote for whom ever is on the ticket. My first choices are rarely if ever the nominees nt Javaman Jun 2025 #32

Absolutely not. I like both these people, but we ran this ticket already pinkstarburst Jun 2025 #33

the country resoundingly rejected TSF once--then "elected" him again cadoman Jun 2025 #62

But there's a difference. Trump was successful and won in 2016 pinkstarburst Jun 2025 #67

She wasn't my favorite in the primary. Ms. Toad Jun 2025 #34

If they win the primary, certainly. GoCubsGo Jun 2025 #41

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. tinrobot Jun 2025 #43

tesler say what Nimble_Idea Jun 2025 #50

If she wants to run, she should run. TheProle Jun 2025 #51

The Republican meme would be 'a return to open borders'. everyonematters Jun 2025 #53

That wouldn't be my first choice EdmondDantes_ Jun 2025 #54

it's not a great poll--99% of us would support it if it were the ticket cadoman Jun 2025 #61

No. The poll is asking if thats what we want. Not whether we would support it. SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #63

the poll states "Harris Walz 2028?" cadoman Jun 2025 #64

As the poll author, that was not my intention SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #66

did not realize I was duking it out with the poll author cadoman Jun 2025 #68

Not a problem at all! Next time I make a poll, I will definitely be more careful with the wording :) SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #69

It all depends who else runs in the primary VMA131Marine Jun 2025 #55

Are we sure there will BE a 2028 election? davsand Jun 2025 #56

That assumes she can win a primary Renew Deal Jun 2025 #65