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In reply to the discussion: "In unprecedented move, DNC official [David Hogg] to spend big to take down fellow Democrats" [View all]SSJVegeta
(2,209 posts)70. Not how it works
The "corporate blah blahs" help ensure there isn't a vote on a bill supported by 70% of voters in the first place. So whether they vote with Bernie doesn't matter because the bills that get to the floor will never satisfy the vast needs of the general population if they don't satisfy their large donor base, since the bills get amended by the "corporate blah blahs" to the point they no longer provide what they were often intended to do. That's generally how our current system of legalized corruption works.
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"In unprecedented move, DNC official [David Hogg] to spend big to take down fellow Democrats" [View all]
LauraInLA
Apr 2025
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While I think PACs, etc., should be illegal, I don't favor unilaterally disavowing all PAC money while the other side
LauraInLA
Apr 2025
#2
Perhaps you havent noticed the groundswell of support for the "fight the oligarchy" tour
SSJVegeta
Apr 2025
#69
Democrat "takes" a $200 campaign contribution from someone working on Wall Street or a Pharma company: BRIBED!
betsuni
Apr 2025
#81
Who has changed votes or policy because of PACs (which cannot coordinate with candidates nor can they
betsuni
Apr 2025
#87
Most of those in the Democratic coalition vote with each other the vast, vast, vast majority of the time.
W_HAMILTON
Apr 2025
#68
Oh bullshit. If 70% of the people supported something that their elected representative refused to support...
W_HAMILTON
Apr 2025
#72
In that case, weed would be legal, insider trading for congresspeople would be illegal
SSJVegeta
Apr 2025
#73
Yet you don't mention that same need for Republicans with exponentially more dollars.
live love laugh
Apr 2025
#27
Not smart. Primarying and winning against another Dem does not trim the rethug majority...
brush
Apr 2025
#78
I will reserve judgement until I see who is targeted and who the primary challenger is
AZJonnie
Apr 2025
#3
Agreed -- we have to look critically at individual races, incumbents, and challengers.
LauraInLA
Apr 2025
#5
Frankly nobody in a deep blue district can justify taking corporate pac money
SSJVegeta
Apr 2025
#56
Yes, I think is called "democracy"... I thought that's supposed to be a GOOD thing!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2025
#77
Lobbied against her for oversight committee..Pushed for 74 yr old man with cancer instead
helpisontheway
Apr 2025
#91
I fear people think we're casting a TV show instead of dealing with policy and politics.
CBHagman
Apr 2025
#101
Id'd rather an ineffective Democrat that gets elected , than a hellfire one that can't. It's a tough call but
dem4decades
Apr 2025
#58
We have 2 open seats where elderly Dem MOC died and their R gov won't call elections
Arazi
Apr 2025
#12
I don't believe in unliterally replacing all older Dems -- precision related to effectiveness is required.
LauraInLA
Apr 2025
#19
What does Hogg targeting Democrats have to do with the Republican governor not calling a replacement election?
live love laugh
Apr 2025
#25
(butting in here) I think they mean it's disadvantageous to have so many older members,
Qutzupalotl
Apr 2025
#29
He doesn't need to offer them a damn thing -- again, who made him kingmaker?
W_HAMILTON
Apr 2025
#105
LOL, everything you've posted has indicated you would have been the first calling for her head.
W_HAMILTON
Apr 2025
#108
I tend to agree with him. We can't do politics as usual anymore. We can't afford seat fillers being
Vinca
Apr 2025
#20
It seems so, but it takes millions to run for office now. It's not like the old days, especially with Musk thrown in.
Vinca
Apr 2025
#30
"We need a whole lot of AOCs out there"... truer words were never spoken!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2025
#49
Putting the word "grassroots" in front of $20 million purifies it. Everybody else's money is corrupt, of course.
betsuni
Apr 2025
#38
Bernie: "If they went into our emails I'm sure there would be statements that would be less than flattering
betsuni
Apr 2025
#89
I'm honestly seriously disappointed he was considered for DNC leadership when he posts stuff like this...
PunkinPi
Apr 2025
#98
Ah, a thumb on the scales is cool now. Thumb or other finger. And don't say "rigging" -- that's
betsuni
Apr 2025
#39
"I've got news for the Democratic establishment. They can't stop us." Demonizing Dems as corrupt riggers
betsuni
Apr 2025
#53
Yeah, I bet some of the folks who were yelling about party superdelegates voting in the convention nomination...
LudwigPastorius
Apr 2025
#79
"credentials are that he survived a terrible mass shooting." Like the other 3,000+ students at that campus nt
EX500rider
Apr 2025
#120
Sheldon Whitehouse made an important point about Dems not undermining ourselves
jmbar2
Apr 2025
#104
This is very interesting -- thank you for sharing! You should post this on its own!
LauraInLA
Apr 2025
#114
DNC Chair Ken Martin-Voters Should Pick their Candidates, Not Party Bosses
LetMyPeopleVote
Apr 2025
#115
Here is more on what Hogg is being paid by his PAC and the fact that Hogg may be using DNC mailing lists to raise money
LetMyPeopleVote
Apr 2025
#116