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SSJVegeta

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70. Not how it works
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:45 PM
Apr 2025

The "corporate blah blahs" help ensure there isn't a vote on a bill supported by 70% of voters in the first place. So whether they vote with Bernie doesn't matter because the bills that get to the floor will never satisfy the vast needs of the general population if they don't satisfy their large donor base, since the bills get amended by the "corporate blah blahs" to the point they no longer provide what they were often intended to do. That's generally how our current system of legalized corruption works.

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It means Democrats take ending corruption within their party very seriously. SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #1
While I think PACs, etc., should be illegal, I don't favor unilaterally disavowing all PAC money while the other side LauraInLA Apr 2025 #2
Nobody is really advocating for that. SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #8
Sorry, I thought that's what you were advocating with this quote: LauraInLA Apr 2025 #11
Good point about the union lobbyist money!! SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #15
Union Money like the Teamsters and the UAW bottomofthehill Apr 2025 #40
P.S. Goods Unite Us documents companies and their political giving. LauraInLA Apr 2025 #14
Thanks!!Have you looked at opensecrets? SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #17
Yes, Letting Republicans have every single advantage Nixie Apr 2025 #9
Corruption by beholdening yourself to special interests is an impediment SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #36
Republicans are running the government. Nixie Apr 2025 #43
We are not republicans. SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #54
Your post isn't really about politics. It's more a quasi-religious Nixie Apr 2025 #60
The post is about what Democrats are doing on a material level SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #61
Politics isn't about gospel and you deciding who is or isn't Nixie Apr 2025 #62
It's literally about whether the people you elect represent you SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #64
But personal tangents about morals and corruption isn't Nixie Apr 2025 #66
Perhaps you havent noticed the groundswell of support for the "fight the oligarchy" tour SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #69
Who's taking bribes? MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #80
Democrat "takes" a $200 campaign contribution from someone working on Wall Street or a Pharma company: BRIBED! betsuni Apr 2025 #81
That is not corruption. SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #82
Who has changed votes or policy because of PACs (which cannot coordinate with candidates nor can they betsuni Apr 2025 #87
Look it up SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #92
Who has changed votes or policies because of PAC money? betsuni Apr 2025 #93
Are you incapable of doing a search? SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #95
That's a list of contributions. Where does it say he changed votes or policy? betsuni Apr 2025 #96
First you said they cant coordinate or contribute directly. SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #97
Here is somebody who has done those things. But he is far from the knly one SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #94
Lots of people. SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #83
Most of those in the Democratic coalition vote with each other the vast, vast, vast majority of the time. W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #68
Not how it works SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #70
Oh bullshit. If 70% of the people supported something that their elected representative refused to support... W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #72
In that case, weed would be legal, insider trading for congresspeople would be illegal SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #73
Yet you don't mention that same need for Republicans with exponentially more dollars. live love laugh Apr 2025 #27
F Republicans SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #37
Bullshit. live love laugh Apr 2025 #41
What's bullshit? SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #55
Amen Nixie Apr 2025 #63
What is? SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #65
Welcome to DU Nixie Apr 2025 #67
Be more clear with your words. SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #71
Not smart. Primarying and winning against another Dem does not trim the rethug majority... brush Apr 2025 #78
I will reserve judgement until I see who is targeted and who the primary challenger is AZJonnie Apr 2025 #3
Agreed -- we have to look critically at individual races, incumbents, and challengers. LauraInLA Apr 2025 #5
Frankly nobody in a deep blue district can justify taking corporate pac money SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #56
Yes, I think is called "democracy"... I thought that's supposed to be a GOOD thing!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2025 #77
Probably a response to what Pelosi did to AOC helpisontheway Apr 2025 #4
We need new blood who, like their predecessors, are unafraid to lead. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2025 #32
What did Pelosi do to AOC? betsuni Apr 2025 #35
Lobbied against her for oversight committee..Pushed for 74 yr old man with cancer instead helpisontheway Apr 2025 #91
I fear people think we're casting a TV show instead of dealing with policy and politics. CBHagman Apr 2025 #101
Bad mistake.My guess is he will quit in a hissy fit. travelingthrulife Apr 2025 #6
You could be right. MineralMan Apr 2025 #13
Since he is paying himself $16,000 a month I'd guess not, YMMV nt EX500rider Apr 2025 #119
I prefer to donate my money to take down republicans dem4decades Apr 2025 #7
winning answer! thank you bottomofthehill Apr 2025 #42
getting rid of out-of-touch, ineffective Democrats help to bring down repukes Skittles Apr 2025 #51
Id'd rather an ineffective Democrat that gets elected , than a hellfire one that can't. It's a tough call but dem4decades Apr 2025 #58
who is saying they cannot get elected? Skittles Apr 2025 #59
He's proposing this for super safe blue districts only Arazi Apr 2025 #74
I smell bullshit. His opponents are not Democrats. live love laugh Apr 2025 #10
We have 2 open seats where elderly Dem MOC died and their R gov won't call elections Arazi Apr 2025 #12
I don't believe in unliterally replacing all older Dems -- precision related to effectiveness is required. LauraInLA Apr 2025 #19
That's the strategy he's proposing Arazi Apr 2025 #34
Makes sense to me!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2025 #45
What does Hogg targeting Democrats have to do with the Republican governor not calling a replacement election? live love laugh Apr 2025 #25
(butting in here) I think they mean it's disadvantageous to have so many older members, Qutzupalotl Apr 2025 #29
Yes, that's exactly right Arazi Apr 2025 #33
No, he doesn't. The voters themselves elected those politicians. W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #52
He's offering those voters a choice between two Dems Arazi Apr 2025 #75
He doesn't need to offer them a damn thing -- again, who made him kingmaker? W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #105
The vice chair of the DNC. SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #85
And he should immediately resign from that position. W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #106
I dont think schultz should have resigned. Nor should Hogg SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #107
LOL, everything you've posted has indicated you would have been the first calling for her head. W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #108
I will not be donating to any efforts to break up the Democratic Party. MineralMan Apr 2025 #16
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #112
This idea also incentivizes mediocre Democrats to do better Mike 03 Apr 2025 #18
Follow the lead of Bernie & AOC... fight with no compromise!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2025 #47
I tend to agree with him. We can't do politics as usual anymore. We can't afford seat fillers being Vinca Apr 2025 #20
Throwing millions around is politics as usual in my book n/t GusBob Apr 2025 #22
It seems so, but it takes millions to run for office now. It's not like the old days, especially with Musk thrown in. Vinca Apr 2025 #30
"We need a whole lot of AOCs out there"... truer words were never spoken!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2025 #49
If you are a development executive in Hollywood... Mike 03 Apr 2025 #21
Sounds revolutionary Fiendish Thingy Apr 2025 #23
$20 million to pit Democrats against each other MichMan Apr 2025 #24
And where'd he get $20 million? live love laugh Apr 2025 #26
Putting the word "grassroots" in front of $20 million purifies it. Everybody else's money is corrupt, of course. betsuni Apr 2025 #38
grass roots my ass bottomofthehill Apr 2025 #46
He also managed to raise 9 million dollars in the last election cycle bottomofthehill Apr 2025 #48
WTF JI7 Apr 2025 #88
Hogg is evidently using the Justice Democratic email list LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #111
Great JustAnotherGen Apr 2025 #28
Member of the DNC should NOT be taking sides in primaries LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #86
Bernie: "If they went into our emails I'm sure there would be statements that would be less than flattering betsuni Apr 2025 #89
So you are calling on Hogg to likewise resign, yes? W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #90
I think that Hogg should sign the pledge or resign LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #110
I was a Clinton Delegate to the 2016 National Convention LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #109
I'm honestly seriously disappointed he was considered for DNC leadership when he posts stuff like this... PunkinPi Apr 2025 #98
Ah, a thumb on the scales is cool now. Thumb or other finger. And don't say "rigging" -- that's betsuni Apr 2025 #39
I was just about to say... W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #50
"I've got news for the Democratic establishment. They can't stop us." Demonizing Dems as corrupt riggers betsuni Apr 2025 #53
Yeah, I bet some of the folks who were yelling about party superdelegates voting in the convention nomination... LudwigPastorius Apr 2025 #79
Dem Status Quo is helping 1.0444 destroy democracy. PuraVidaDreamin Apr 2025 #44
David Hogg is the shiny new idealist on the scene, whose actual experience and JohnSJ Apr 2025 #57
This is right out of Putins playbook GusBob Apr 2025 #100
"credentials are that he survived a terrible mass shooting." Like the other 3,000+ students at that campus nt EX500rider Apr 2025 #120
Could be this is just a devil's advocate initiative dweller Apr 2025 #76
Although I have stopped donating to D for a long time now Meowmee Apr 2025 #84
Great idea! n/t GusBob Apr 2025 #99
Democracy is best when we have choices. Gore1FL Apr 2025 #102
Not a smart use of time & money imo SheltieLover Apr 2025 #103
Sheldon Whitehouse made an important point about Dems not undermining ourselves jmbar2 Apr 2025 #104
Hogg is being paid by his PAC LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #113
This is very interesting -- thank you for sharing! You should post this on its own! LauraInLA Apr 2025 #114
Here is the thread LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #117
👍 LauraInLA Apr 2025 #118
DNC Chair Ken Martin-Voters Should Pick their Candidates, Not Party Bosses LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #115
Here is more on what Hogg is being paid by his PAC and the fact that Hogg may be using DNC mailing lists to raise money LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #116
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