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Mike 03

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18. This idea also incentivizes mediocre Democrats to do better

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Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:40 PM

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Some of our leaders could do better; they might need a kick in the butt.

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"In unprecedented move, DNC official [David Hogg] to spend big to take down fellow Democrats" [View all] LauraInLA Thursday OP

It means Democrats take ending corruption within their party very seriously. SSJVegeta Thursday #1

While I think PACs, etc., should be illegal, I don't favor unilaterally disavowing all PAC money while the other side LauraInLA Thursday #2

Nobody is really advocating for that. SSJVegeta Thursday #8

Sorry, I thought that's what you were advocating with this quote: LauraInLA Thursday #11

Good point about the union lobbyist money!! SSJVegeta Thursday #15

Union Money like the Teamsters and the UAW bottomofthehill Thursday #40

P.S. Goods Unite Us documents companies and their political giving. LauraInLA Thursday #14

Thanks!!Have you looked at opensecrets? SSJVegeta Thursday #17

Yes, Letting Republicans have every single advantage Nixie Thursday #9

Corruption by beholdening yourself to special interests is an impediment SSJVegeta Thursday #36

Republicans are running the government. Nixie Thursday #43

We are not republicans. SSJVegeta Thursday #54

Your post isn't really about politics. It's more a quasi-religious Nixie Thursday #60

The post is about what Democrats are doing on a material level SSJVegeta Thursday #61

Politics isn't about gospel and you deciding who is or isn't Nixie Thursday #62

It's literally about whether the people you elect represent you SSJVegeta Thursday #64

But personal tangents about morals and corruption isn't Nixie Thursday #66

Perhaps you havent noticed the groundswell of support for the "fight the oligarchy" tour SSJVegeta Thursday #69

Who's taking bribes? MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #80

Democrat "takes" a $200 campaign contribution from someone working on Wall Street or a Pharma company: BRIBED! betsuni Yesterday #81

That is not corruption. SSJVegeta Yesterday #82

Who has changed votes or policy because of PACs (which cannot coordinate with candidates nor can they betsuni Yesterday #87

Look it up SSJVegeta Yesterday #92

Who has changed votes or policies because of PAC money? betsuni Yesterday #93

Are you incapable of doing a search? SSJVegeta Yesterday #95

That's a list of contributions. Where does it say he changed votes or policy? betsuni Yesterday #96

First you said they cant coordinate or contribute directly. SSJVegeta Yesterday #97

Here is somebody who has done those things. But he is far from the knly one SSJVegeta Yesterday #94

Lots of people. SSJVegeta Yesterday #83

Most of those in the Democratic coalition vote with each other the vast, vast, vast majority of the time. W_HAMILTON Thursday #68

Not how it works SSJVegeta Thursday #70

Oh bullshit. If 70% of the people supported something that their elected representative refused to support... W_HAMILTON Thursday #72

In that case, weed would be legal, insider trading for congresspeople would be illegal SSJVegeta Thursday #73

Yet you don't mention that same need for Republicans with exponentially more dollars. live love laugh Thursday #27

F Republicans SSJVegeta Thursday #37

Bullshit. live love laugh Thursday #41

What's bullshit? SSJVegeta Thursday #55

Amen Nixie Thursday #63

What is? SSJVegeta Thursday #65

Welcome to DU Nixie Thursday #67

Be more clear with your words. SSJVegeta Thursday #71

Not smart. Primarying and winning against another Dem does not trim the rethug majority... brush Thursday #78

I will reserve judgement until I see who is targeted and who the primary challenger is AZJonnie Thursday #3

Agreed -- we have to look critically at individual races, incumbents, and challengers. LauraInLA Thursday #5

Frankly nobody in a deep blue district can justify taking corporate pac money SSJVegeta Thursday #56

Yes, I think is called "democracy"... I thought that's supposed to be a GOOD thing!! InAbLuEsTaTe Thursday #77

Probably a response to what Pelosi did to AOC helpisontheway Thursday #4

We need new blood who, like their predecessors, are unafraid to lead. InAbLuEsTaTe Thursday #32

What did Pelosi do to AOC? betsuni Thursday #35

Lobbied against her for oversight committee..Pushed for 74 yr old man with cancer instead helpisontheway Yesterday #91

I fear people think we're casting a TV show instead of dealing with policy and politics. CBHagman Yesterday #101

Bad mistake.My guess is he will quit in a hissy fit. travelingthrulife Thursday #6

You could be right. MineralMan Thursday #13

I prefer to donate my money to take down republicans dem4decades Thursday #7

winning answer! thank you bottomofthehill Thursday #42

getting rid of out-of-touch, ineffective Democrats help to bring down repukes Skittles Thursday #51

Id'd rather an ineffective Democrat that gets elected , than a hellfire one that can't. It's a tough call but dem4decades Thursday #58

who is saying they cannot get elected? Skittles Thursday #59

He's proposing this for super safe blue districts only Arazi Thursday #74

I smell bullshit. His opponents are not Democrats. live love laugh Thursday #10

We have 2 open seats where elderly Dem MOC died and their R gov won't call elections Arazi Thursday #12

I don't believe in unliterally replacing all older Dems -- precision related to effectiveness is required. LauraInLA Thursday #19

That's the strategy he's proposing Arazi Thursday #34

Makes sense to me!! InAbLuEsTaTe Thursday #45

What does Hogg targeting Democrats have to do with the Republican governor not calling a replacement election? live love laugh Thursday #25

(butting in here) I think they mean it's disadvantageous to have so many older members, Qutzupalotl Thursday #29

Yes, that's exactly right Arazi Thursday #33

No, he doesn't. The voters themselves elected those politicians. W_HAMILTON Thursday #52

He's offering those voters a choice between two Dems Arazi Thursday #75

He doesn't need to offer them a damn thing -- again, who made him kingmaker? W_HAMILTON Yesterday #105

The vice chair of the DNC. SSJVegeta Yesterday #85

And he should immediately resign from that position. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #106

I dont think schultz should have resigned. Nor should Hogg SSJVegeta 23 hrs ago #107

LOL, everything you've posted has indicated you would have been the first calling for her head. W_HAMILTON 22 hrs ago #108

I will not be donating to any efforts to break up the Democratic Party. MineralMan Thursday #16

This idea also incentivizes mediocre Democrats to do better Mike 03 Thursday #18

Follow the lead of Bernie & AOC... fight with no compromise!! InAbLuEsTaTe Thursday #47

I tend to agree with him. We can't do politics as usual anymore. We can't afford seat fillers being Vinca Thursday #20

Throwing millions around is politics as usual in my book n/t GusBob Thursday #22

It seems so, but it takes millions to run for office now. It's not like the old days, especially with Musk thrown in. Vinca Thursday #30

"We need a whole lot of AOCs out there"... truer words were never spoken!! InAbLuEsTaTe Thursday #49

If you are a development executive in Hollywood... Mike 03 Thursday #21

Sounds revolutionary Fiendish Thingy Thursday #23

$20 million to pit Democrats against each other MichMan Thursday #24

And where'd he get $20 million? live love laugh Thursday #26

Putting the word "grassroots" in front of $20 million purifies it. Everybody else's money is corrupt, of course. betsuni Thursday #38

grass roots my ass bottomofthehill Thursday #46

He also managed to raise 9 million dollars in the last election cycle bottomofthehill Thursday #48

WTF JI7 Yesterday #88

Great JustAnotherGen Thursday #28

Member of the DNC should NOT be taking sides in primaries LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #31

2016 DNC Chair Schultz: SSJVegeta Yesterday #86

Bernie: "If they went into our emails I'm sure there would be statements that would be less than flattering betsuni Yesterday #89

So you are calling on Hogg to likewise resign, yes? W_HAMILTON Yesterday #90

I'm honestly seriously disappointed he was considered for DNC leadership when he posts stuff like this... PunkinPi Yesterday #98

Ah, a thumb on the scales is cool now. Thumb or other finger. And don't say "rigging" -- that's betsuni Thursday #39

I was just about to say... W_HAMILTON Thursday #50

"I've got news for the Democratic establishment. They can't stop us." Demonizing Dems as corrupt riggers betsuni Thursday #53

Yeah, I bet some of the folks who were yelling about party superdelegates voting in the convention nomination... LudwigPastorius Thursday #79

Dem Status Quo is helping 1.0444 destroy democracy. PuraVidaDreamin Thursday #44

David Hogg is the shiny new idealist on the scene, whose actual experience and JohnSJ Thursday #57

This is right out of Putins playbook GusBob Yesterday #100

Could be this is just a devil's advocate initiative dweller Thursday #76

Although I have stopped donating to D for a long time now Meowmee Yesterday #84

Great idea! n/t GusBob Yesterday #99

Democracy is best when we have choices. Gore1FL Yesterday #102

Not a smart use of time & money imo SheltieLover Yesterday #103

Sheldon Whitehouse made an important point about Dems not undermining ourselves jmbar2 Yesterday #104