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Dr. Shepper

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131. If COVID and an insurrection weren't enough

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Mon Jan 20, 2025, 07:35 PM

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I don’t think any amount if suffering would open American eyes. We are on the way out.

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America needs to suffer [View all] edhopper Jan 16 OP

Yes it has to be a steep learning curve for lessons to be learned. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #1

Yes bdamomma Jan 16 #5

Yes we lived in a sort of golden age and didn't know it or appreciate it. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #13

Nothing is ever enough for the greedy billionaire elites meow2u3 Jan 16 #67

They won't stop until they have every last cent. Blue Full Moon Jan 16 #77

Nothing will ever fill the holes in their souls. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #88

Always thought this song summed it up Blue Full Moon Jan 16 #92

well said Evolve Dammit Jan 16 #74

or a "big swift kick in the ass with reality." Evolve Dammit Jan 16 #73

Sad but true. Most alcoholics and addicts won't get sober until they hit bottom... johnnyplankton Jan 16 #48

I don't know if the MAGAs hit bottom they will learn anything. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #59

Then they have not reached bottom. state of stupid Jan 16 #68

I think the MAGAs will sit at the bottom blaming everyone else until they die. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #81

It's a cult. Mariana Jan 16 #86

I agree wholeheartedly. After 40 years of being a therapist, I am not sure I would want to hear state of stupid Jan 16 #94

I truly loved my job. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #95

What to do about the Trump cult? Irish_Dem Jan 16 #97

Some Nazis changed when looking down the barrel of a gun held by an American GI. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #83

What did they change though? Cirsium Jan 16 #98

Good point. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #100

Most walked Cirsium Jan 16 #104

Are you sure they changed or did they change into camouflage and go underground? state of stupid Jan 16 #99

Yes good point, they are back. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #102

there is that. Was all Clinton's fault or Obama's fault or Bidens' fault. RW smear 24/7 all over radio and "social" Evolve Dammit Jan 16 #76

It's all the fault of people who pee in the wrong bathroom. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #84

Let's Not Forget, even if it was not done well enough to prosper, and continue past a few years... electric_blue68 Friday #111

Listened all the time until they folded. Still getting Democracy Now! on a local radio station. Wish there was more. Evolve Dammit Friday #119

Agree with you yankee87 Jan 16 #82

And so we shall, and the rest of the world with us 0rganism Jan 16 #2

Make it a double. rubbersole Jan 16 #43

I agree and disagree. Our lives are a time to learn and make mistakes, but do mistakes have to in2herbs Jan 16 #3

"negative fashion" bdamomma Jan 16 #6

Well America just exercised their free will edhopper Jan 16 #8

It would be a lovely world if that were the case, but I'm skeptical. MLAA Jan 16 #24

half of our country is extremely selfish and has absolutely no empathy for anyone else. They couldn't care less, until Meadowoak Jan 16 #42

It will affect them. bdamomma Jan 16 #50

They think their lives will change on day one. Demobrat Jan 16 #78

"do mistakes have to involve pain and suffering in order to learn our lessons?" - not always, but these mistakes will 0rganism Jan 16 #69

I hate to agree but I do. And the worse it is, the quicker it will be over. Scrivener7 Jan 16 #4

Be careful what you wish for inwiththenew Jan 16 #7

We already have the fascists in power edhopper Jan 16 #10

People aren't alseep Cirsium Jan 16 #12

Some will take it as a sign... Beck23 Jan 16 #25

oh bdamomma Jan 16 #58

The thought Has crossed my mind.... electric_blue68 Friday #112

And if kkmarie Jan 16 #63

How to Win Friends and Influence People Prairie Gates Jan 16 #9

That might not work Cirsium Jan 16 #11

Some Germans even... Beck23 Jan 16 #30

And this will be the way if something should happen to tRUMP, he passes away from some ailment of the stomach, SWBTATTReg Jan 16 #41

I watched a documentary a few years back. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 16 #51

They knew Cirsium Jan 16 #96

Oh, hell yes. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 16 #101

I heard this same argument on Election Night 2016 from a Millenial. maxsolomon Jan 16 #14

Yep. red don killed hundreds of thousands not fooled Jan 16 #21

I would ammend that and say "truth has no counter" jgmiller Jan 16 #60

I don't think the suffering will teach anybody anything, all we can hope and work for is a pendulum swing thebigidea Jan 16 #15

Propaganda Johnny2X2X Jan 16 #16

when you have to decide between rent and medicine Skittles Jan 16 #79

"Paychecks" Johnny2X2X Jan 16 #89

for DECADES I said, not since BIDEN Skittles Jan 16 #90

Fair enough Johnny2X2X Friday #114

When life gets harder for them and they are suffering they'll still listen to right wing media who will tell them it's kimbutgar Jan 16 #17

Blaming someone else is always easier than thinking . . . hatrack Friday #115

I don't think people will wake the fuck up, they will find more different bogeymen RockRaven Jan 16 #18

I tend to agree Redleg Jan 16 #110

WTFU jeffreyi Jan 16 #19

It was mentioned in another post, the descendants of the confederacy are back dlk Jan 16 #20

Suffering will only make MAGATs crazier, more volent Bobstandard Jan 16 #22

I posted something similar a few weeks ago Takket Jan 16 #23

Hard For Them To Wake Up Mr.Bee Jan 16 #26

I'm afraid you are right Americanme Jan 16 #27

Read "Dying of Whiteness" AverageOldGuy Jan 16 #28

That's not necessarily true. I know MAGATS who are snowflake whimps holding onto blind faith that Papa Trump will Martin68 Jan 16 #37

EXACTLY Blue_Tires Jan 16 #38

You first.. whathehell Jan 16 #29

There's no "you first." It's going to be all of us. But it is inevitable. Scrivener7 Jan 16 #72

Yea, actually there is.. whathehell Jan 16 #93

You misunderstand. My comment has nothing to do with collective guilt or atoning. This has to do with the Scrivener7 Jan 16 #105

Yes, I'm beginning to think Americans need to suffer before they come to their senses and reject MAGA. Martin68 Jan 16 #31

The dumbing down of America has suceeded! 3825-87867 Jan 16 #32

And when they complain simply say "I didn't vote for him so don't b***h to me" appleannie1 Jan 16 #33

Trump will simply double down and blame it all on Blue_Tires Jan 16 #34

People in prison suffer. milestogo Jan 16 #35

The MAGAs will just blame it all on Biden. fierywoman Jan 16 #36

The Deplorable voter wants what he/she are TOLD to want - no amount of suffering is going to change a thing. NoMoreRepugs Jan 16 #39

Sorry, not sorry. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 16 #40

It will have to affect them personally Macrophylla Jan 16 #44

let it all go down. all go down and then they will whine and pine on how good they had it. my late mom AllaN01Bear Jan 16 #45

Trump 2.0 could be worse bmichaelh Jan 16 #46

Agree! Facts and reason aren't working because.... perdita9 Jan 16 #47

Climate change will make sure we will suffer Kaleva Jan 16 #49

You're not alone in your thoughts. egduj Jan 16 #52

Ralph Nader mentioned that way back when. I know GPV Jan 16 #53

Whatever success powerful right-wing propaganda has in convincing Americans Stargleamer Jan 16 #54

Only certain minds Keepthesoulalive Jan 16 #85

Much of America already does. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 16 #55

Glad to see somebody's wish is bound to come true. (nt) Paladin Jan 16 #56

I agree but lapfog_1 Jan 16 #57

Agree...but, those of us who understand what's coming can take steps now to mitigate the pain and suffering PortTack Jan 16 #61

Some will wake up TexasBushwhacker Jan 16 #62

The Republican campaign against being "woke" is their way of masking their intent and actions. patphil Jan 16 #64

Indeed! 100% cer7711 Jan 16 #65

Anything bad they blame on Democrats NameAlreadyTaken Jan 16 #66

Rec Evolve Dammit Jan 16 #70

Not sure America will connect the right dots. CountMyVote4Reality Jan 16 #71

Agreed. hadEnuf Jan 16 #75

I agree OP ThePartyThatListens Jan 16 #80

This sounds like it comes from a position of privilege erodriguez Jan 16 #87

Or somebody edhopper Jan 16 #109

In Jesus' name though. So... czarjak Jan 16 #91

We will, whether we need to or not. Ocelot II Jan 16 #103

What people fail to grasp is any suffering that happens will be blamed on the Democrats, and unfortunately under fascist JohnSJ Jan 16 #106

That is correct. Sadly the most vulnerable people will suffer more than the rest. Oopsie Daisy Jan 16 #107

One way or another, tens of millions of voters need to learn the lesson that Martin Eden Jan 16 #108

"Needs to Suffer"? [sorry, Earl G]. Screw you, OP. Many have Suffered ENOUGH, already! electric_blue68 Friday #113

America has suffered enough. Kid Berwyn Friday #117

My second sentence; edhopper Friday #118

Your Second sentence DOESN'T Matter you're still pushing for suffering that will affect So Many that are Not Magats! electric_blue68 Monday #123

I am not pushing it edhopper Monday #124

The phrase "Needs to" is NOT a Nuetral phrase. IF you had said, "I Expect America to suffer", that's nuetral. electric_blue68 Monday #125

True edhopper Monday #126

Kinda too late, but I think they need to suffer somehow, bc their votes electing him will, imho, bring.... electric_blue68 Monday #130

Sadly i agree. Once the MAGA fools satisfy some of their hate lust against travelingthrulife Friday #116

The right already has a head start. The Grand Illuminist Monday #120

I kicked off my "Dump the dollar" program today. roamer65 Monday #121

I still can't believe the women of America didn't stand up to this ecstatic Monday #122

It would be interesting to see who they blame after they deport all the immigrants tulipsandroses Monday #127

Obama and Biden edhopper Monday #128

This. cilla4progress Monday #129

If COVID and an insurrection weren't enough Dr. Shepper Monday #131

It is sad state that this might happen. SteveMarrs Monday #132