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bmichaelh

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46. Trump 2.0 could be worse

Thu Jan 16, 2025, 03:26 PM

Jan 16

I will not be surprised if things are much worse under Trump 2.0

For example, the COVID crisis could have been much worse.
Trump wanted to repeal ACA 3 years before COVID.
He failed due to the Democrats, some Republicans in the House, and 3 Republicans in the Senate.
What would have happened to the hospitals in this country, if you had patients with COVID symptoms showing up with no insurance.
Some COVID stays have lasted weeks if not months.

I am afraid there will be very little, if any, Republican opposition to his current nominees.
None of the current healthcare nominees would have got us out of the last COVID crisis; they are anti-vaxxers, anti-lockdown, and proponents of herd immunity.

Will all of the Republicans rubber stamp every Trump decision.

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America needs to suffer [View all] edhopper Jan 16 OP

Yes it has to be a steep learning curve for lessons to be learned. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #1

Yes bdamomma Jan 16 #5

Yes we lived in a sort of golden age and didn't know it or appreciate it. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #13

Nothing is ever enough for the greedy billionaire elites meow2u3 Jan 16 #67

They won't stop until they have every last cent. Blue Full Moon Jan 16 #77

Nothing will ever fill the holes in their souls. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #88

Always thought this song summed it up Blue Full Moon Jan 16 #92

well said Evolve Dammit Jan 16 #74

or a "big swift kick in the ass with reality." Evolve Dammit Jan 16 #73

Sad but true. Most alcoholics and addicts won't get sober until they hit bottom... johnnyplankton Jan 16 #48

I don't know if the MAGAs hit bottom they will learn anything. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #59

Then they have not reached bottom. state of stupid Jan 16 #68

I think the MAGAs will sit at the bottom blaming everyone else until they die. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #81

It's a cult. Mariana Jan 16 #86

I agree wholeheartedly. After 40 years of being a therapist, I am not sure I would want to hear state of stupid Jan 16 #94

I truly loved my job. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #95

What to do about the Trump cult? Irish_Dem Jan 16 #97

Some Nazis changed when looking down the barrel of a gun held by an American GI. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #83

What did they change though? Cirsium Jan 16 #98

Good point. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #100

Most walked Cirsium Jan 16 #104

Are you sure they changed or did they change into camouflage and go underground? state of stupid Jan 16 #99

Yes good point, they are back. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #102

there is that. Was all Clinton's fault or Obama's fault or Bidens' fault. RW smear 24/7 all over radio and "social" Evolve Dammit Jan 16 #76

It's all the fault of people who pee in the wrong bathroom. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #84

Let's Not Forget, even if it was not done well enough to prosper, and continue past a few years... electric_blue68 Friday #111

Listened all the time until they folded. Still getting Democracy Now! on a local radio station. Wish there was more. Evolve Dammit Friday #119

Agree with you yankee87 Jan 16 #82

And so we shall, and the rest of the world with us 0rganism Jan 16 #2

Make it a double. rubbersole Jan 16 #43

I agree and disagree. Our lives are a time to learn and make mistakes, but do mistakes have to in2herbs Jan 16 #3

"negative fashion" bdamomma Jan 16 #6

Well America just exercised their free will edhopper Jan 16 #8

It would be a lovely world if that were the case, but I'm skeptical. MLAA Jan 16 #24

half of our country is extremely selfish and has absolutely no empathy for anyone else. They couldn't care less, until Meadowoak Jan 16 #42

It will affect them. bdamomma Jan 16 #50

They think their lives will change on day one. Demobrat Jan 16 #78

"do mistakes have to involve pain and suffering in order to learn our lessons?" - not always, but these mistakes will 0rganism Jan 16 #69

I hate to agree but I do. And the worse it is, the quicker it will be over. Scrivener7 Jan 16 #4

Be careful what you wish for inwiththenew Jan 16 #7

We already have the fascists in power edhopper Jan 16 #10

People aren't alseep Cirsium Jan 16 #12

Some will take it as a sign... Beck23 Jan 16 #25

oh bdamomma Jan 16 #58

The thought Has crossed my mind.... electric_blue68 Friday #112

And if kkmarie Jan 16 #63

How to Win Friends and Influence People Prairie Gates Jan 16 #9

That might not work Cirsium Jan 16 #11

Some Germans even... Beck23 Jan 16 #30

And this will be the way if something should happen to tRUMP, he passes away from some ailment of the stomach, SWBTATTReg Jan 16 #41

I watched a documentary a few years back. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 16 #51

They knew Cirsium Jan 16 #96

Oh, hell yes. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 16 #101

I heard this same argument on Election Night 2016 from a Millenial. maxsolomon Jan 16 #14

Yep. red don killed hundreds of thousands not fooled Jan 16 #21

I would ammend that and say "truth has no counter" jgmiller Jan 16 #60

I don't think the suffering will teach anybody anything, all we can hope and work for is a pendulum swing thebigidea Jan 16 #15

Propaganda Johnny2X2X Jan 16 #16

when you have to decide between rent and medicine Skittles Jan 16 #79

"Paychecks" Johnny2X2X Jan 16 #89

for DECADES I said, not since BIDEN Skittles Jan 16 #90

Fair enough Johnny2X2X Friday #114

When life gets harder for them and they are suffering they'll still listen to right wing media who will tell them it's kimbutgar Jan 16 #17

Blaming someone else is always easier than thinking . . . hatrack Friday #115

I don't think people will wake the fuck up, they will find more different bogeymen RockRaven Jan 16 #18

I tend to agree Redleg Jan 16 #110

WTFU jeffreyi Jan 16 #19

It was mentioned in another post, the descendants of the confederacy are back dlk Jan 16 #20

Suffering will only make MAGATs crazier, more volent Bobstandard Jan 16 #22

I posted something similar a few weeks ago Takket Jan 16 #23

Hard For Them To Wake Up Mr.Bee Jan 16 #26

I'm afraid you are right Americanme Jan 16 #27

Read "Dying of Whiteness" AverageOldGuy Jan 16 #28

That's not necessarily true. I know MAGATS who are snowflake whimps holding onto blind faith that Papa Trump will Martin68 Jan 16 #37

EXACTLY Blue_Tires Jan 16 #38

You first.. whathehell Jan 16 #29

There's no "you first." It's going to be all of us. But it is inevitable. Scrivener7 Jan 16 #72

Yea, actually there is.. whathehell Jan 16 #93

You misunderstand. My comment has nothing to do with collective guilt or atoning. This has to do with the Scrivener7 Jan 16 #105

Yes, I'm beginning to think Americans need to suffer before they come to their senses and reject MAGA. Martin68 Jan 16 #31

The dumbing down of America has suceeded! 3825-87867 Jan 16 #32

And when they complain simply say "I didn't vote for him so don't b***h to me" appleannie1 Jan 16 #33

Trump will simply double down and blame it all on Blue_Tires Jan 16 #34

People in prison suffer. milestogo Jan 16 #35

The MAGAs will just blame it all on Biden. fierywoman Jan 16 #36

The Deplorable voter wants what he/she are TOLD to want - no amount of suffering is going to change a thing. NoMoreRepugs Jan 16 #39

Sorry, not sorry. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 16 #40

It will have to affect them personally Macrophylla Jan 16 #44

let it all go down. all go down and then they will whine and pine on how good they had it. my late mom AllaN01Bear Jan 16 #45

Trump 2.0 could be worse bmichaelh Jan 16 #46

Agree! Facts and reason aren't working because.... perdita9 Jan 16 #47

Climate change will make sure we will suffer Kaleva Jan 16 #49

You're not alone in your thoughts. egduj Jan 16 #52

Ralph Nader mentioned that way back when. I know GPV Jan 16 #53

Whatever success powerful right-wing propaganda has in convincing Americans Stargleamer Jan 16 #54

Only certain minds Keepthesoulalive Jan 16 #85

Much of America already does. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 16 #55

Glad to see somebody's wish is bound to come true. (nt) Paladin Jan 16 #56

I agree but lapfog_1 Jan 16 #57

Agree...but, those of us who understand what's coming can take steps now to mitigate the pain and suffering PortTack Jan 16 #61

Some will wake up TexasBushwhacker Jan 16 #62

The Republican campaign against being "woke" is their way of masking their intent and actions. patphil Jan 16 #64

Indeed! 100% cer7711 Jan 16 #65

Anything bad they blame on Democrats NameAlreadyTaken Jan 16 #66

Rec Evolve Dammit Jan 16 #70

Not sure America will connect the right dots. CountMyVote4Reality Jan 16 #71

Agreed. hadEnuf Jan 16 #75

I agree OP ThePartyThatListens Jan 16 #80

This sounds like it comes from a position of privilege erodriguez Jan 16 #87

Or somebody edhopper Jan 16 #109

In Jesus' name though. So... czarjak Jan 16 #91

We will, whether we need to or not. Ocelot II Jan 16 #103

What people fail to grasp is any suffering that happens will be blamed on the Democrats, and unfortunately under fascist JohnSJ Jan 16 #106

That is correct. Sadly the most vulnerable people will suffer more than the rest. Oopsie Daisy Jan 16 #107

One way or another, tens of millions of voters need to learn the lesson that Martin Eden Jan 16 #108

"Needs to Suffer"? [sorry, Earl G]. Screw you, OP. Many have Suffered ENOUGH, already! electric_blue68 Friday #113

America has suffered enough. Kid Berwyn Friday #117

My second sentence; edhopper Friday #118

Your Second sentence DOESN'T Matter you're still pushing for suffering that will affect So Many that are Not Magats! electric_blue68 Monday #123

I am not pushing it edhopper Monday #124

The phrase "Needs to" is NOT a Nuetral phrase. IF you had said, "I Expect America to suffer", that's nuetral. electric_blue68 Monday #125

True edhopper Monday #126

Kinda too late, but I think they need to suffer somehow, bc their votes electing him will, imho, bring.... electric_blue68 Monday #130

Sadly i agree. Once the MAGA fools satisfy some of their hate lust against travelingthrulife Friday #116

The right already has a head start. The Grand Illuminist Monday #120

I kicked off my "Dump the dollar" program today. roamer65 Monday #121

I still can't believe the women of America didn't stand up to this ecstatic Monday #122

It would be interesting to see who they blame after they deport all the immigrants tulipsandroses Monday #127

Obama and Biden edhopper Monday #128

This. cilla4progress Monday #129

If COVID and an insurrection weren't enough Dr. Shepper Monday #131

It is sad state that this might happen. SteveMarrs Monday #132