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paleotn

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4. Thus, we have governments. Which are really just us banding together for the common good
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 10:48 AM
Jan 2025

The concept of demand sharing. Each of us can give something, no matter how small, so other's may survive. Letting members of the band, tribe, clan or nation starve is not good for anyone, since it weakens us collectively and one day it might be us. The basis of the modern insurance model. But really, that's as old as dirt. There's evidence for that in our Neanderthal cousins as well. The band takes care of members who can no longer provide for themselves, either for a short time or permanently.

That does bring up another ethical dilemma though, freeloading. If one can contribute to the group, but refuses, can we withdraw support? The basis of the "welfare queen." Another concept as old as dirt. Our ancestors policed that pretty effectively. In a vastly more complex society, that's more difficult. Personally, I don't care if there are a few free riders, as long as the greater number of people who need the aid get it. Republicans would starve everyone just to ensure those few freeloaders don't get what they don't deserve.

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It is an interesting question bottomofthehill Jan 2025 #1
Thus, we have governments. Which are really just us banding together for the common good paleotn Jan 2025 #4
Ah the beloved Ronald Regan welfare queen bottomofthehill Jan 2025 #6
Totally agree. The sign of a civilized, functional society. paleotn Jan 2025 #10
Justice? CuriousCelt Jan 2025 #8
It is not the two-tiered system we have these days, I can tell you that. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jan 2025 #11
Welcome to DU! KS Toronado Jan 2025 #13
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2025 #19
And yet they have the opposite view on violence malaise Jan 2025 #2
The best description of ethics odins folly Jan 2025 #3
Hear hear! yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #16
OTOH the people who have the bread are probably not "hoarding" it. thesquanderer Jan 2025 #5
Is it ethical to assume anyone who has bread is hoarding it? Patton French Jan 2025 #7
Let's not forget who gets to define "hoard", and how. yagotme Jan 2025 #9
Depends on how much bread. paleotn Jan 2025 #12
I agree 100% that hoarding can be destructive, depending on the circumstances. Patton French Jan 2025 #15
Absolutely unethical if you support a political system that is unable to provide homes for everyone. hunter Jan 2025 #20
Well said Buzz cook Jan 2025 #14
People get ethics and legality mixed up. KentuckyWoman Jan 2025 #17
An old French Socialist joke. Ping Tung Jan 2025 #18
Interesting concept odins folly Jan 2025 #21
Yep. And this. "The comfort of the rich is dependent on an ample suppy of the poor." Voltaire. Ping Tung Jan 2025 #22
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